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    Unable to format drive which is NTFS to Fat32 or install Win98 se

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    by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

    I am unable to format my C drive which is NTFS into Fat32.

    Here is the history.
    I had dual operating systems –
    Windows 98 se – C drive – 18.6 gb (Fat32)
    Windows Xp Professional – D drive – 18.6 gb(Fat32)

    and I have an empty E drive – 18.6 gb (which I can convert to NTFS and Fat32 using format easily without any problems)

    I wanted to store a file bigger than 4 gb, so I read that converting Fat32 to NTFS would make that possible.

    So I converted C drive to NTFS.

    Now the problem was that I could access the files in C drive through Windows Xp operating system, I could not boot to Windows 98 se

    I then read that Windows 98 se does not support NTFS drive. Since I wanted Windows 98 se in my computer I had to reformat the drive which was the only way to convert it back to Fat32.

    I backed up all important data on D drive and then tried formatting the C drive using format function. But I got an error saying ?Windows was unable to complete the format?

    So I deleted All the Program, Windows and other files which were on the C drive manually. The C drive is empty and I do not find any hidden files also.
    I tried formatting again but it gives the same error ?Windows was unable to complete the format?

    So I tried installing Windows 98 se from MS-DOS command prompt by copying my Windows 98 se files on my E drive.
    It went successfully till I got the Windows 98 se screen saying that it was not able to install Windows 98 se as the drive I was installing in was HPFS or NTFS. Either I had some compressed files or disk cache utility on the drive.

    I checked the C drive with my antivirus and saw some 34 files being scanned which were not visible on the drive.

    The above when I see in Disk Management now shows as follows – (after doing the above )
    Disk0,Dsk1_vol1(C:),Dsk1_vol2(D:),Dsk1_vol3(E)
    Basic 18.63gb NTFS 18.63gb FAT32 18.64gb FAT32
    55.90gb Healthy(System) Healthy(Boot) Healthy
    online

    C drive has 18.5 gb free out which 123 mb is being taken up by probably the 34 files which I unable to see.

    I tried to delete the C drive using disk management but the option is not highlighted to be used and is grayed out (Delete Partition). It is the same for D drive (Delete logical drive). Only E partition has the option (Delete logical drive)

    I have not used the Fdisk command from MS-DOS because I had read going through the various websites which had similar problems that I cannot delete a partition if it is primary and there are one or more logical drives attached to it.

    It can only be done if the logical drives are deleted first.

    But since I seem to have one primary partition and two logical drives, can somebody please help me in installing Windows 98 se on my C drive?

    Or am I missing something?

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    • #2617975

      Clarifications

      by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

      In reply to Unable to format drive which is NTFS to Fat32 or install Win98 se

      Clarifications

    • #2617932

      To

      by rob miners ·

      In reply to Unable to format drive which is NTFS to Fat32 or install Win98 se

      remove the primary partition use fdisk. You are deleting the non dos primary partition. Restart the PC and format c: as fat32. Install 98. Then you have the problem of getting xp to run as you have deleted a couple of files it needs to startup. You should be able to do a repair. Or better still install XP and use Virtual PC to install 98.

      A couple of links.

      How to edit Boot.ini

      http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/bootini.htm

      Setting up 98

      http://support.microsoft.com/kb/153762

      • #2619724

        Install Windows 98 se on C:

        by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

        In reply to To

        For some reason, Fdisk is not working from MS -DOS prompt. I tried the command “Fdisk /status” in MS-DOS prompt (by booting from cd) and it does not work.

        So, I used the Windows Xp Cd and went to recovery console to delete the partition and create a new one. I formatted it to fat32. (which I read in another webpage)

        Then I could install Windows 98 se, but I am unable to see the dual setup of Windows 98 se and Windows Xp Professional.

        The system directly boots to Windows 98 se.
        I checked the link to edit the boot.ini. file given above. But the Windows 98 se msconfig configuration does have boot.ini tab to edit.

        I tried Windows Xp Professional Recovery console using bootcfg /rebuild, bootcfg /add, etc but I am unable to see or get the boot window where I have an option to select the operating system

        So what can I do to get Windows Xp back without reinstalling Windows Xp on drive D?

        Thanks!

        • #2619720

          Instructions?

          by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

          In reply to Install Windows 98 se on C:

          Could u please tell me how to fix it from Windows Xp professional Recovery console if it is possible as I tried it but do not know if I did the right thing. I have a few softwares in installed in drive D which I do not have on backup which I need so I do not want to reinstall Windows Xp Professional

          Thanks in advance for your help.

        • #2619618

          Try this

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to Instructions?

          What has happened when you deleted the Original Partition the Operating System Loading information was destroyed. This may not work. The only way that you could possibly get around that if you don’t want to reinstall is to copy the Ntdetect.com and the Ntldr files from the I386 folder on the Windows XP CD-ROM to the C: drive on the 98 PC. Check whether you have XP Pro or Home then you will have to modify a Boot.ini file and make sure that it is in c: Drive. Something like this.

          [boot loader]
          timeout=30
          default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
          [operating systems]
          multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS=”Microsoft Windows XP Professional” /fastdetect
          C:\ = “Microsoft Windows 98”

        • #2627130

          So I would be starting like this?

          by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

          In reply to Try this

          I have Windows Xp Professional.

          Right now, I have two Windows Xp Professional’s setup on my computer.

          One in C drive and one in D drive as I could only access (dual boot screen) Windows Xp by reinstalling Windows Xp on the C drive

          So are the steps correct below correct?

          1. Use Windows Xp Recovery Console to delete the C partition and create a new one and format it.
          2. Use Ms-dos (boot from cd) to install Windows 98se on C drive from my E drive (Have copied Windows 98 se on it)
          3. From logging onto Windows 98 se, copy the Ntdetect.com and the Ntldr files from the I386 folder on the Windows XP CD-ROM to the C: drive
          4. Backup the present boot.ini. file which is in notepad format which can be found by doing search for all files and copy the same
          to C drive and paste the above –
          [boot loader]
          timeout=30
          default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
          [operating systems]
          multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS=”Microsoft Windows XP Professional” /fastdetect
          C:\ = “Microsoft Windows 98”

          and save the file.

          I am doubtful about point 4. So would this be right?

          Thanks a lot!

        • #2627076

          That’s right

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to So I would be starting like this?

          1. Format C: Fat32
          2. Install Win98
          3. Copy Ntdetect.com and Ntldr files to C:
          4. Edit Boot.ini to allow access to the 2nd partition. Check your Boot.ini against this and make necessary changes.
          [boot loader]
          timeout=30
          default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
          [operating systems]
          multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS=”Microsoft Windows XP Professional” /fastdetect
          C:\ = “Microsoft Windows 98”

          Along with the Win98 Boot files you should end up with 3 more files in the root directory of C: Boot.ini, Ntldr and Ntdetect.com

        • #2612386

          How

          by rob miners ·

          In reply to That’s right

          did you get on?

    • #2612382

      You can use

      by gary56789 ·

      In reply to Unable to format drive which is NTFS to Fat32 or install Win98 se

      Partition Magic.

      Windows does not have a built-in tool to convert backwards, like one can to convert from FAT/FAT32 to NTFS

      • #2612797

        Did it finally.

        by bimal_kumar_sanghi ·

        In reply to You can use

        I tried the steps in Post 7. But it did not yet give me the dual boot screen, where I could choose the Operating system. (Even though all the three files – Boot.ini, Ntldr and N… were there)

        So after installing Windows 98 se on C drive, I tried a new install of Windows Xp Professional on E drive. As it copied the setup files to my E drive, it rebooted. And when it did I could see the screen where I could choose the Operating System. So before it continued setup I choose the Windows Xp Professional which was on drive D. And then deleted the Windows Xp setup in the boot.ini and setup files on my E drive.

        Thanks a million!

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