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By jb_goins ·
I've been working in the IT industry for about 15 years now. I never had a degree and I am finding that it is blocking me from getting a job in the field. I was thinking of trying one of the accelerated courses from the University of Phoenix or a college like that. Is this an acceptable degree or will it look like I am lazy and I should go the traditional college route?

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U or Phoenix's Sales Pressure

by eric In reply to University of Phoenix and ...

The U of Phoenix's sales tactics are so high pressure that they sounds like more a high-pressure telemarketing company than a real University. When I talked to them the saleman was telling me that there was one spot left in and it was set to expire in a week. Pressure!!!!

Contact 'em once, and they'll never let you go.

Like you, I never had time for a degree. (OK. I'll admit, I have half of a Bachelor of Commerce from McMaster University in Canada). The University of Phoenix suggested that they could slip me into their MBA programme. Getting a Masters degree without the prerequisite Bachelors seems a bit odd.

The University of Liverpool (yes, England) is doing the same thing with some advanced IT degree, except if you look closely, it's really some company in the Netherlands using the University's name in some wierd licensing deal.

Caveat Emptor.

(Maybe that should be Caveat Temptor?)

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Worked for me

by gralfus In reply to University of Phoenix and ...

HP put me through UofP (well, half way until the cuts came) and I graduated with a bachelors degree in IT after many thousands of dollars later. It costs a lot of money, more than Harvard last time I checked. But it is really convenient if you are working, since you can attend online.

However, I second the sales pressure comment of the other poster. I had a coworker who was going to attend decide not to when they started contacting him at home repeatedly. UofP wants money. Period. The instructors can range from great to freaking stupid jerks. UofP doesn't care, as long as you paid for the class. You do get to provide feedback, but you have no way of knowing if it went anywhere. Counselors tend to **** off this kind of feedback. But bad instructors were a rare thing in my experience.

Just got a call from them wanting to know if I am pursuing a Masters.

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Re: Worked for me.

by jb_goins In reply to Worked for me

Would you mind giving me a rough estimate of what the cost was? I was a victim of 9/11 but haven't been able to get back into the IT industry. "Too much experience but none recent". The jump down from $28/hour to $12/hour as a grocery clerk was one heck of a downer. I just need to figure if the degree combined with 15 years IT experience would pay off the loans needed.

Joe

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Costs

by Salamander In reply to Re: Worked for me.

I've been researching some of these programs, and have been considering Baker College in Michigan. They are accredited by the North Central Association, and have the lowest tuition that I've seen for accredited undergraduate and graduate degrees. They also have physical campuses. Disclaimer: I've not actually taken classes with them, so I can't speak to the offerings.

http://www.online.baker.edu/

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I am attending

by slapekas In reply to Costs

I am attending Baker College online. It is excellent and very reasonably priced. I started a year ago with a transfer of 60 credits and I plan on graduating in the Spring next year. They have really good instructors and it is very flexible. I would recommend it highly. I do also worry that people will think that I am not learning what I need to from an online college but I would disagree. I am only going online because I work full time and online is my only option.

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Thanks for the info

by Salamander In reply to I am attending

...it's good to hear that information! Hearing from others about the classes and that you were successful in transferring your credits helps in my decisionmaking.

I also work full time, so online programs would be my only option, as well. And I also worry about whether going online would be taken as seriously, especially given recent crackdowns in the public and private sectors about employees getting degrees from unaccredited schools. But, from what I've read, it seems like the ones that are regionally-accredited and have a physical campus seem to not have caused so much controversy.

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$440/credit

by gralfus In reply to Re: Worked for me.

Most classes are 3 credits and last 5 weeks online. So that is $1,320 every 5 weeks.

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I paid that much going to community college in Oregon

by jb_goins In reply to $440/credit

Lane Community college in Oregon costs about the same per semester when I went and it's cheaper than going to the University of Oregon too. So that's not that bad since I have almost 2 years under my belt already. Financial assistance will be my biggest hurdle. thanks for the Info.

Joe

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Here is some more information.

by Garion11 In reply to I paid that much going to ...

I recently signed up for online colleges as well. Here is an excellent site on online colleges and distance learning. If you want a contact at the college I am attending e-mail me at Belgarion1199@hotmail.com.

http://www.degreeinfo.com/index.html

Check out the message boards and stuff for more information and to speak to students. Good luck.

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Not quite, unless you got ripped off

by gralfus In reply to I paid that much going to ...

Here is what the Lane Community College site lists as tuition:
Residents of Oregon:
$63 per credit hour
Nonresidents of Oregon and International Students:
$216 per credit hour

That is at best half of UofPhoenix. Phoenix is $440 per credit hour.

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