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Upgrade Puters, best hardware cheap, no conflicts?

By raticus ·
I have a Compaq presario 5000 = Intel Pentium 3e, 750mhz, 20GB HD, 320mb SDram and running Win98se. Also good monitor, keyboard and mouse, 1 LG Dvd r, 1 LG cdrw, NEC floppy drive, realtek ethernet adapter x1, intel 810e chipset graphics driver(DC133,FSB133)3D accelarator-Intel i752, EssTechnology Allegro-1. Comm Audiodrive, Conexant HCF V90 56K dataFax PCI modem, USB not sure if 1.0 or 2.0,
This puter has been hard worked by up to 6ppl over 6-7yrs, and the hard drive is on its last legs.

The other puter is too long in the tooth and only has 3gb HD (yes you got it right '3mb'pityful isnt it) with about 350mhz. Also monitor, keyboard and mouse, 1 cdr, 1 floppy drive,

Have another compaq presario 2200 = Media GX @166mhz, intergrated sound and graphics, Atapi IDE CDr , 1.51GB HD (yes you got it right '1.5gb' even more pityful isnt it)30MB sdram, 1x floppy, 56k modem, at present running win95only and real slowwww.

I want to get two puters running well/better plus network both in home, both to be able to access same internet connection and Install/Use all office 2000 software(must be able to run access2000), Win98se and other software for senior highschool & Tafe studies. Also The Sims 1 game with all expansions, and room to fit two other largish games, plus music files and databases. Also to share printing, copy floppys, burn CD's and DVD's.

Before anyone says it, NO thanks I dont want win 2000 or net or WinXP! I cannot afford software upgrades of any sort, must be MSoffice not Openoffice.

I cannot afford much, $300-$600 au, so must be able to use existing parts where possible without conflicts. I do not buy online, also I am in Western Australia, Perth. So Perthites, recommend shops please.
I rely on the puter for own studies and inderpendance, plus my teens rely on it for school, internet, msn messanger and games.

Any ideas, help, suggestions, advice, links appreciated. :)

I will leave this open a while, to get lots of choices and ideas. T

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by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Upgrade Puters, best hard ...

Well for a start sear clear of the Named boxes like Dell, HP, and the rest as they use all in 1 M'Boards which require the CPU to double as a GPU and use System Memory as Video Memory and not be available for the rest of the machine.

Your first problem is if you have OEM MS Software if you read the EULA is only licensed for the original Hardware so major upgrades are out of the question. You can change the M'Board or CPU but not both to give you much faster improvement is processing power.

If you would like to drop me an E-Mail through the Peer Mail Listings I can possible help you on where to buy hardware locally to you but as AU is a big place the places that I would suggest in Brisbane may not be of any use to you if you live in Perth or even Sydney. After all it isn't a 5 minute drive to Brisbane is it?

Col ]:)

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by Toivo Talikka In reply to Upgrade Puters, best hard ...

Have you had a look at online auctions which get rid of end of lease or liquidated 'puters at ridiculous prices?

http://graysonline.com.au/

Some of the products on offer come directly from manufacturers like Dell or Toshiba.

Keep in mind that a couple of hours before the closing time the dealers start to bid for bargains.

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by sgt_shultz In reply to Upgrade Puters, best hard ...

puting together a computer from parts does not usually save money imho. computers still too deflationary i think.
for system 1, if the presario 5000 has an open pci slot, i would upgrade the hd and add in a hd controller in it.
system 2, buy another system unless i am way off with how much $300 au is in us, i think you have enough.
for spare parts (not to cobble up new system) keep software, floppy, hd, cd drives, any cards (sound, video, ethernet) and cables you want and maybe the power supply. keyboard and mouse should work fine on new system also. ditto speakers, printers. other external and added in devices. maybe the monitors depending on how old (too old might not support refresh rates of new video card) notice i did not mention saving the ram and motherboard. and case.
i bet the 5000 will go on for a few mores years with a new hd.
to fix it, look for a branded hd 'upgrade kit' that comes with software and best of all with a controller with win98 drivers for it.
ideally, get the same brand hd as in there now the software in the upgrade kit may be able to repair the current drive and copy it to the new drive.
do you want to stick with win98 on both systems for reinstalling existing games and such. were you thinking of possibly putting the old hd into a new system. which should work if you find a new system that currently has win98 on it or that you are assured with money back will run win98. as it is not a sure thing that you can put win98 on a new hardware (especially with lots integrated on the mobo like a cheap new system will have). best proof is win98 on their already.
win98 systems still out there in close-out, off-lease and or refurbs. cheap as everybody wants xp now. maybe you do too. but that has possibly higher total cost of ownership due to forced upgrade of games and other software maybe...
as for buying on-line, most companies will phone you to get your credit card info or to arrange for you to mail a check so don't let that stop you.

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by raticus In reply to Upgrade Puters, best hard ...

Hal: Your sure right about Perth not being 5mins away from Sydney, lol. Wish it was closer actually, since all the best stores are over there. Actually even local is difficult for transport for me. I kinda need to find a one stop spot to get stuff but that’s difficult, although around here we have a thing called the Quoka, cheap newspaper/online with adds re: stuff sell, buy, swap. Might be able to get a cheapish case of goodies say with no monitor, keyboard, software, so on… If I knew which 2-3yr old parts would go with as much as what I have at present, to save cash. My Compaq restore disk is OEM but twill check my other disk, if this is also OEM what can I do? If someone does’nt want their version of Win98se, how can I tell quickly from the disk if it is OEM as well. Can I legally use a non-OEM version? Re: costs what might be reasonable price? Whats the problem with all-in-one M'Boards, whats your opinion on intergrated graphics and sound?

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Hal: Your sure right about Perth not being 5mins away from Sydney, lol. Wish it was closer actually, since all the best stores are over there. Actually even local is difficult for transport for me. I kinda need to find a one stop spot to get stuff but that’s difficult, although around here we have a thing called the Quoka, cheap newspaper/online with adds re: stuff sell, buy, swap. Might be able to get a cheapish case of goodies say with no monitor, keyboard, software, so on… If I knew which 2-3yr old parts would go with as much as what I have at present, to save cash. My Compaq restore disk is OEM but twill check my other disk, if this is also OEM what can I do? If someone does’nt want their version of Win98se, how can I tell quickly from the disk if it is OEM as well. Can I legally use a non-OEM version? Re: costs what might be reasonable price? Whats the problem with all-in-one M'Boards, whats your opinion on intergrated graphics and sound?

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by raticus In reply to Upgrade Puters, best hard ...

Toivo: Will look, bit iffy about buying sight unseen though.

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