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    Very basic question

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    by whtever ·

    I am new to networking. I am trying to file/share print my 2 home computers. One is a laptop with XP the other is a desktop with 2000 PRO. I have a DSL modem with a wireless router. Both computers have wireless card in them.

    When I ping the laptop with it’s IP address (which I got from ipconfig) I get a time out. Can you tell me why? What does it mean when I can’t get a reply from my own?

    thanx

    thanx for the info

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    • #3294457

      Maybe this can get you started

      by rigmarol ·

      In reply to Very basic question

      You gave just basic info so pardon me if my suggest is basic and leave out something that keeps you from continuing.

      Here are some basic steps to take:

      Your goal is to be able to share files and a printer on your 2 system network.

      Working from your ISP trough all the equipment envolved, Your ISP assignes you ONE ip address period. Assuming it is not the same number each time (they usually charge more for that) you need something to share that number. Enter your Router. This can be (and should be) a seperate piece of hardware and is probably the same piece of equipment you are already using for your wireless access point.
      Once your router is assigned the IP address from your ISP you need a way to share that number to your other devices. If you don’t you won’t connect. Look for something called DHCP in the router settings. Be sure it is enabled.
      Then, on your two PCs in your network settings, be sure they are set to automatically get their IP address and DNS address. This is usually default.
      Now your printer must be connected to one of the PCs, (I’m assuming the desktop. The driver must be installed on BOTH PCs. So be sure to install using either the disk that came with it or the latest downloaded driver.

      Then set the Desktop so that File/Print sharing is turned enabled.

      Now, starts the testing to see if it all works.
      First do a test print from the Desktop PC if it works, the driver is ok.
      Next see if the laptop can get on the internet. If not, don’t try anything else until it can.
      Once it sees the internet you can go to MY Computer and map a drive to a folder on your Desktop. Once this is established you can Add a printer, then search for your printer under networked device. Once you find it, install it and since you already have the driver installed you should now be able to do a test print from the wireless laptop to the printer connected to the Desktop.

      I have exactly the same set up at home and my wife constantly works from her laptop from the living room, by the pool, or upstairs in bed and has no problem sharing files and printing while having perfect access to the internet.

      Good luck. and again sorry for the basic descriptions but without details of your hardware that’s the best I can do.

      • #3294443

        thanx for the reply

        by whtever ·

        In reply to Maybe this can get you started

        This is excellent information because while I know a little bit about DHCP & DNS I didn’t think about loading the printer driver on both computers.
        When I do IPCONFIG/all I can see that the router address(which I think is the gateway also??)and it is the same on both computers. When you say File/Print sharing is enabled you mean the shared folders correct?
        Both computers can already access the internet because I have a wireless router and both computer have a wireless card in them.

        One last question please….I don’t know how to “enter the router”. It is a separate piece of hardware but don’t know how to “get inside of it”
        …access it.

        thank you very much for your help
        One other question….the router

        • #3297249

          Check documentation of router

          by gryfon ·

          In reply to thanx for the reply

          Either the box, or look up the router manufacturer’s site online. It’s usually an internal ip address. You use your web browser and point to that ip address, usually 192.168.0.1 or some such thing. You can waste all day trying every octet, so look it up on their website. Usually the username is ‘admin’ and the password is blank, so just hit enter.

          Good luck!
          Gryf

        • #3297221

          Reply To: Very basic question

          by rigmarol ·

          In reply to thanx for the reply

          If you already have internet access with both PCs then the hard part is really done.

          What you need to do now is get into the Wireless Router and secure it.

          You don’t want to leave it at the default login password as it did out of the box. You and 2 million other people who purchased the same equipment all have the same password (that’s not good by the way).

          Read the set up instruction that came with your wireless router, you can’t miss the instruction on how to get into it. The hardest thing is to realize that you use your Internet Browser to get into it. It’s like your own little web page for just that device.

          When you change your password be sure to write it down. Taping it to the bottom of the unit is a good idea for home use (business users should be shot for doing this at work though).

          After you change your password, nobody but you can change anything on the router. However, be aware that without more secure settings, your neighbors may be getting free internet service from your wireless router. If you feel generous then you don’t need to change anything else. If you want to keep your bandwidth to yourself, then look up “How to secure my wireless router” on a Google search and you should get all kinds of suggestions.

          You didn’t say if you were able to print after installing the drivers. Hopefully you were. Same with file sharing.

          Good luck.

    • #3294455

      Maybe this can get you started

      by rigmarol ·

      In reply to Very basic question

      You gave just basic info so pardon me if my suggest is basic and leave out something that keeps you from continuing.

      Here are some basic steps to take:

      Your goal is to be able to share files and a printer on your 2 system network.

      Working from your ISP trough all the equipment envolved, Your ISP assignes you ONE ip address period. Assuming it is not the same number each time (they usually charge more for that) you need something to share that number. Enter your Router. This can be (and should be) a seperate piece of hardware and is probably the same piece of equipment you are already using for your wireless access point.
      Once your router is assigned the IP address from your ISP you need a way to share that number to your other devices. If you don’t you won’t connect. Look for something called DHCP in the router settings. Be sure it is enabled.
      Then, on your two PCs in your network settings, be sure they are set to automatically get their IP address and DNS address. This is usually default.
      Now your printer must be connected to one of the PCs, (I’m assuming the desktop. The driver must be installed on BOTH PCs. So be sure to install using either the disk that came with it or the latest downloaded driver.

      Then set the Desktop so that File/Print sharing is turned enabled.

      Now, starts the testing to see if it all works.
      First do a test print from the Desktop PC if it works, the driver is ok.
      Next see if the laptop can get on the internet. If not, don’t try anything else until it can.
      Once it sees the internet you can go to MY Computer and map a drive to a folder on your Desktop. Once this is established you can Add a printer, then search for your printer under networked device. Once you find it, install it and since you already have the driver installed you should now be able to do a test print from the wireless laptop to the printer connected to the Desktop.

      I have exactly the same set up at home and my wife constantly works from her laptop from the living room, by the pool, or upstairs in bed and has no problem sharing files and printing while having perfect access to the internet.

      Good luck. and again sorry for the basic descriptions but without details of your hardware that’s the best I can do.

    • #3294437

      Maybe this can get you started

      by rigmarol ·

      In reply to Very basic question

      You gave just basic info so pardon me if my suggest is basic and leave out something that keeps you from continuing.

      Here are some basic steps to take:

      Your goal is to be able to share files and a printer on your 2 system network.

      Working from your ISP trough all the equipment envolved, Your ISP assignes you ONE ip address period. Assuming it is not the same number each time (they usually charge more for that) you need something to share that number. Enter your Router. This can be (and should be) a seperate piece of hardware and is probably the same piece of equipment you are already using for your wireless access point.
      Once your router is assigned the IP address from your ISP you need a way to share that number to your other devices. If you don’t you won’t connect. Look for something called DHCP in the router settings. Be sure it is enabled.
      Then, on your two PCs in your network settings, be sure they are set to automatically get their IP address and DNS address. This is usually default.
      Now your printer must be connected to one of the PCs, (I’m assuming the desktop. The driver must be installed on BOTH PCs. So be sure to install using either the disk that came with it or the latest downloaded driver.

      Then set the Desktop so that File/Print sharing is turned enabled.

      Now, starts the testing to see if it all works.
      First do a test print from the Desktop PC if it works, the driver is ok.
      Next see if the laptop can get on the internet. If not, don’t try anything else until it can.
      Once it sees the internet you can go to MY Computer and map a drive to a folder on your Desktop. Once this is established you can Add a printer, then search for your printer under networked device. Once you find it, install it and since you already have the driver installed you should now be able to do a test print from the wireless laptop to the printer connected to the Desktop.

      I have exactly the same set up at home and my wife constantly works from her laptop from the living room, by the pool, or upstairs in bed and has no problem sharing files and printing while having perfect access to the internet.

      Good luck. and again sorry for the basic descriptions but without details of your hardware that’s the best I can do.

    • #3297222

      XP and 2000 connectivity issues

      by whtever ·

      In reply to Very basic question

      This is crazy. I have everything as it should be. The workgroup name is set up on both computers, the selected files are shared on both computers but alas I can’t access one from the other. And I know it all points to me not being able to ping my own address (I can’t ping the laptops address from the laptop)

      • #3297211

        Reply To: Very basic question

        by rigmarol ·

        In reply to XP and 2000 connectivity issues

        You can’t ping the laptop from the same laptop? Not sure what you are trying to do by attempting that? but, you are right, you SHOULD be able to do that.

        When you type ipconfig/all at a command line (Start/run/cmd)

        Does it show your gateway being the same as your Router?
        The DHCP server should also be the same as your router?
        Does it show DHCP enabled = Yes
        Does it show Autoconfiguration enabled = Yes

        • #3297193

          pinging to see if I am recognized

          by whtever ·

          In reply to Reply To: Very basic question

          The gateway is the same as the router
          DHCP is enabled but I can’t see where the address would be
          I don’t know wehre autoconfiguraiton is

        • #3296998

          check your firewall

          by bayvien ·

          In reply to pinging to see if I am recognized

          can’t ping, check your sw firewall, disable them.
          can’t share files and printer, create new workgroup, will get u there 100%.

        • #3296888

          I tried disabling the firewall

          by whtever ·

          In reply to check your firewall

          I have the Windows firewall service pack upgrade. It has an exceptions tab on it that allows for file/print sharing. But anyway I turned it off and trying pinging with the firewall off. It still didn’t work. Is it likely that there is there another firewall?

        • #3296714

          IPCONFIG

          by jmayes ·

          In reply to I tried disabling the firewall

          Since you cannot ping the other system, you do not need to worry about printers or drivers yet. Basically, your basic networking is messed up.

          How are you getting the internal IP Addresses? (Static or Modem controlled)

          Can you do an IP config /all on both computers and post the information? To run the command, click on start – programs – accessories – command prompt. A black screen should popul with a c:\>
          in it. at that point, type: ipconfig /all

          Please send: (for both systems)
          IP Address
          Default Gateway
          Subnet Mask
          DNS Server

          Can you ping the modem itself?

          I will try to help ya out if you can provide this info. Thanks

        • #3294961

          Thank you

          by whtever ·

          In reply to IPCONFIG

          I responded to your e-mail address with screen print attachments. I have not set these IP address so I will say that I am receiving them dynamically from the modem.

          The modem is connected to the wireless router. Both computers have wireless cards. I really thought this would be a simple procedure.

          Appreciate all help

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