Virginity: Thread 1 of the TR Sewer, as built by Jaqui ?? ]:)

after all, they all die virgins ]:)
[ unless they are gay or bisexual ]
since a virgin means never having been penetrated by a male sexual organ.

It was never a big issue for me if my plartners were virgins or not.

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i find this thread offensive.

You're asking a bunch of nerdy I.T. blokes when they lost their virginity?

Does Cybersex count?

a crotchless strapon harness can be a fun addition for really causing intense sensations for my playmates. double Penetration baby, fill multiple openings at once ]:)

GG, I commend your honesty. I'm afraid that I can't match you but only because the story isn't pretty and tends to upset people.

In regards your question though, my $0.02...

One of the biggest emotional issues a woman with breast cancer goes through is a sense of loss of sexuality due to the loss of the breast(s). Even with reconstruction, the body is not the same. The mastectomy scarring is profound and in reconstruction, you can only tattoo the nipple back in place. I have known women who chose to die of the cancer than to lose their sense of sexual self.

I recall when I had mine done telling my surgeon that I guessed that I would be alone forever because I was NEVER going to allow anyone to see me nude ever again. At the time, I had been single for about 10 years and didn't really date. At that point in my life I was certain that I would die alone. Not because I didn't want to find a partner, but because I felt that I was really too "damaged" to be desirable.

I got lucky and found the man I did. I KNOW just HOW lucky.

There has to be a point at which we recognise that our sexuality has little to do with our bodies and everything to do with defining a level of intimacy with one's partner.

When I taught, and was asked an opinion, I suggested to female students that they wait until marriage. Not because of my personal religious beliefs, but because waiting would hopefully teach them to choose the slow process of intimacy as opposed to the immediacy of sex. There is enormous fulfillment in one, and frankly a mess to clean up after the other.

One of the great things about the relationship that I am in is that I had enough time to learn that I am what I am. And if he didn't like what I am, he should go get what he wants. Let's face it, alone don't scare me.

Other than reconstructive plastic surgery, there is no plastic surgery that I would ever consider for any reason. I'll likely think twice about reconstruction to be honest. I see both advantages and disadvantages to it. But I certainly would not "fix" anything that I did not personally perceive to be "broken". And especially not to try to pretend that I am something I am not.

I will report this.

Especially as the OP is describing a personal experience and not encouraging same.

Actually, she is speaking to a lot of WOMEN'S experience at a general level while restricting her remarks to her own experience.

GG

Interesting, that!

will race back and frantically amend....

:x

GG

my wife was a virgin, I had taken an opportunity to get laid unfortunately as soon as I could. I wish I wouldn't have but that is the past. My marriage is built on trust, love, and honesty. Thank goodness looks mean nothing since I am a fat slob now. I was 15 when I first had sex and she was 16 when she first had sex with me.

It made no difference though if my wife was a virgin or not. We did have a child at the age of 18 (she was 17) though and have beaten the odds by remaining together while other marriages around us have fallen apart. I think we are lucky and were mature enough at our age to make this last.

Now I use my experiences to keep up with my kids as they are now getting into their teens and will be trouble.

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If you're bringing chickens into this discussion then I'm sure that that's illegal.

whether or not you want to admit it. As parents/future parents, we need to know how do deal with our kids.

Further, it is narrow minded people like your self that thinks that sex is something that should not be discussed that prevents good information about sex from being disseminated to young people. This results in unwanted pregnancies and STD.

Frank discussion about sex is the best prevention from STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

Finally, as I stated to Sgt_whatever, if you don't like the topic dont read or participate.

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do it again!

do it again!

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Makes sense. Repressed and angry. Sad, really.

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is going to be bringing this issue home any day now.

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my wife has been trained to emasculate any boys brought home, so if it's your son you have fair warning ]:)

Talking about WHEN you lost your virginity is NOT illegal.

Do you know?
Do you care?
Did you even notice that she isn't in the States?

And as the OP was describing a personal experience and not encouraging same, it does not fall into the category that I believe that you are trying to place it in- e.g. sexual relations with a minor.

What is truly sad is that the topic is important and has value. And has been de-railed by narrow thinking and your insistence that we all model our thinking after yours.

Like it or not, every parent here will face or has faced this issue. Like it or not, many women here can attest to having been pressed for sex from the onset of menses. These are facts. And realistically, we all grew up without the benefit of your rather narrow views on the subject.

I personally did not choose to describe my own experience because to do so would have been to describe an illegal act- not committed by me. But believe me, if you want to open that subject up, I can MORE than speak to it.

Please consider that you are not the only person reading this thread. Hopefully, it will answer some of the issues that face, not only men and women in regard to how they perceive one another, but also parents as they try to instruct their children.

This is a valid topic. If you don't like the subject matter, do not participate.

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I have twin boys, age 15. They are freshmen in high school (ninth grade) I have tried the "girls have cooties" bit, but it just isn't working anymore.... :0

Last weekend ThingTwo went to the Homecoming dance. He was asked to go by a Senior.

The one thing that hinders wild teen sex is the changes they have made on driving for teens. Got to be 18 to have other teens in the car AND not have a parent/guardian present.

When is too young?

I have had "the talk" with my boys, several times. Once together for the overview, but then several times one-on-one to get rid of feeling awkward in front of their brother.

They know I want them to wait. Knocking someone up is a sure way to have a very hard life for a very long time, and means giving up a lot of your dreams in life.

Me? I was 14, she was 16. Could have when I was 13, but passed. Made the rounds over the years, between high school and traveling with a rock-n-roll band for a few years. Don't know how many, thinking back, or even a lot of the names or faces. Kind of sad, and I would have done some things differently.

It SHOULD be something special. More than not, it wasn't. It was just how you spent the night after the bar closed.

I gave my boys each a box of condoms. Told them IF they do, to use a NEW one, EACH time. Multiple times in a session, put a new one on EACH session. The box would be replaced, no questions asked if needed.

When they have their first time, I hope it is with someone they care about. Mine wasn't.

No, I have NEVER been with a virgin, and don't plan in it.

Believe it or not, here in the US it is not illegal to discuss that a 14 year old had sex.

Heck, thanks to the good ol' ACLU, it is legal for NAMBLA to post a HOW-TO on seducing underage boys. All under "free speech".

There are laws that state if YOU are over 18 then YOU cannot have sex with someone who is under 18.

However, there is no law in any state that I know of that states that a 14 year old cannot have sex with another 14 year old.

Some States have laws that state you cannot have sex with a minor that is X number of years younger than you. I remember growing up with the phrase 3 will get you 5. That was because in TN they had/have a law stating that if someone is three years younger than you, you could be charged with statutory rape. This was also to protect 18 year olds who had sex with their 16 year old girl/boy friend.

That all said, I would challenge you to quote any statute that says it is illegal to talk about having sex at 14.

I started having sex at the age of 12.

Since then, the longest I have gone without was boot camp and a few deployments overseas.

Only the friends that participated in some of my escapades even believe half of my stories as most of them make Penthouse Forum seem tame.

The only thing I would change in all of it is that I would be more responsible. I rarely ever used a condom. When I was 15 I got my girlfriend pregnant. Her father didn't give us a choice. He made sure that we realized that, no matter what anyone else had to say about the matter, we were responsible for the loss of a human life and she had an abortion.

Hardly a day goes by that I don't think about that and regret it.

My wife was not a virgin (and hardly an angel) when we met. I wouldn't change a thing about her though. I'm certainly in no place to judge anyone and I've never been one to feel threatened by that stuff anyway.

We have a 17-month-old and one on the way. I plan on being completely honest with my children about my experiences as a young teenager. I plan on teaching them self-respect and arming them with the tools to make the right decisions. There will be bumps along the way, but mistakes are only failures if you don't learn from them.

I only hope that neither of my kids make the one mistake in my life that I regret.

as long as the oldest party is under 18

How many times have you sat around with friends laughing about the time you did something that you really shouldn't have?

We send the message that "don't do this because XYZ, but damn, did I have fun doing it!"

Palmetto, my heels, and GGs crotchless knickers? ;) :0

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If you are offended, [b]don't read[/b] this thread.

It's a generosity that cost me nothing, while giving pause for thought.

"[i]Better to remain silent, and be thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.[/i]"

they can enforce California laws on any person posting content that violates those laws on a site where the server is in California.
it's called extradition.

child porn or snuff being the only areas that it is a guarantee to happen.

knowing where a server is, and what the local laws are for it, can save some freak that doesn't deserve to live from spending time in prison.

sex is always a fun topic ]:)

but then, the "[CENSORED] Machines" thread might be a better one for that.

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No kid would EVER buy that! They are still bulletproof and going to live forever!

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you got me suprised there, I thought everyone knew that the term for movies about murder for sexual gratification was snuff. as in snuff out her life.

Of course I have heard of THAT term for snuff, but what came to mind was putting substances up your nose, and I wondered how you could do that over the net.

From the fine tobacco "snuff" to snuffing, I just wasn't sure what you meant, and I know better than to take ANYTHING at face value.

Thanks for clearing me up before Neil and his NITS could do it.

Hey, he hasn't been checking in lately, has he?

If I can find the woman with the right blend of senusality and empathy.

Neil :)

Oh, and one whose guide dog likes me...

about 2 weeks after your daughter lost hers?

and i though Jaq was hardcore....

]:)

...and if you don't do what I say I will take my belt to you like my dad did to me and then throw your a$$ out in the street.

Is that any better? :)

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