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Was buying computer with 64 bit Vista a huge mistake?

By jstewartjr ·
I recently purchased a Dell desktop Studio, 23" monitor, CPU i7 920, 6GB Ram, Vista Home Premium 64 bit. The offer was so good I could not pass it up even though I know very little about 64 bit systems. Now none of my four printers will work (KonicaMinolta 1350 Laser, HP-7410, HP-3310, HP-950) because there are no Vista Drivers available and I wonder what will happen when I try to install the programs I am currently using on my XP Pro 32 bit system. Will the 64 bit Vista emulate 32 bit automatically and run my 32 bit programs OK or is there something specific I have to do? Advice please!

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Bad Move

by Wizard-09 In reply to Was buying computer with ...

Many programs designed for a computer running a 32-bit version of Windows will work on a computer running 64-bit versions of Windows without any changes. However, in some cases there might be differences in performance. If a 32-bit program uses embedded drivers, the drivers might not work in the 64-bit environment. If you have a 64-bit computer, it's best to run programs designed to run on a 64-bit computer.

Vista is BAD real BAD, I would contact the manufactures website for your printer drivers that will work i am sure they will.

Keep us informed as to your progress if you require further assistance.

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Replace Vista 64 bit OS with Vista 32 bit OS

by jstewartjr In reply to Bad Move

I am considering replacing the 64 bit Vista with a 32 bit Vista OS. Am not sure if I can do that with the i7 CPU or possibly other hardware restrictions but it would possibly be a solution. I could also wait for Win7 to come out and invest in a 32 bit Win7 OS. Do you think that is a viable, if not too costly, an option?

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If you have stuff that will not run on Vista....

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to Replace Vista 64 bit OS w ...

... it will not run on Win7 either. And, right now, there aren't many drivers available for Win7.

The easiest way to upgrade to Win7 later though will be to get things running good on Vista 32bit first.

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Printers do not have drivers for Vista

by jstewartjr In reply to Bad Move

To answer you comment about contacting the printer makers I have done so already. There is no driver for KonicaMinolta Laser 1350 to operate with Vista at all. And the three HP's have only generic drivers for 32 bit Vista and scanning is not supported at all. Be advised that HP apparently does NOT SUPPORT existing printers when new OS's are introduced.

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The Problem here is not the 64 Bit OS but the OS Type

by OH Smeg In reply to Printers do not have driv ...

Vista doesn't support your existing Hardware in the form of these printers and quite likely quite a lot of your old XP Software as well.

This wouldn't have mattered if you had of got the 32 Bit Version of Vista these devices still would not be supported or supported fully..

What you can do here is buy another License of XP and install that though if you get a 32 Bit Version you will be unable to access all of the 6 GIG of RAM that is currently installed but all of your existing Printers and Software should work without problems.

You could try a 64 Bit Version of XP which will use all of the installed RAM and should allow you to use your existing Printers if the Hardware Makers provide 64 Bit Drivers and most of your existing software.

However if you want to be 100% certain that all of your existing hardware and software will work you'll need to look at what the Vendors provide and this includes Dell in the Way of XP Support. The 32 Bit Version will not be an issue and having 2 GIG of unused RAM is not much of an issue if the deal was so great it's very little money involved and you could just leave it in place till you replace your existing Printers and Software with newer Versions that are Supported by Vista then reinstall the 64 Bit Version of Vista.

However as the Home Version of Vista doesn't have a Backward License you will have to either buy a Upgrade to Business or Premium and then install a copy of XP that you may already have of contact M$ about their Backward License on Vista and see what they suggest on obtaining XP Install Media.

Or buy a XP license from M$. Personally if it was me I would opt for the Upgrade Option as it's likely to cost you less money initially and be more use to you in the long run.

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Not True

by The Scummy One In reply to Printers do not have driv ...

not entirely true. There is support for new OS's for many printers. However no manufacturer is going back 5, 7, or 10 years to make their older hardware compatible with the newest OS release.

I have several 3 and 4 year old printers which HP has supplied drivers for. I have some older printers where they have not. As for offering print drivers for some older models, but not scanner drivers, at least you get some functionality!

The problem is that you did not research before purchase. You could have looked these printers up before thinking that they would just work in Vista to see if they would.
Have you tried installing XP 64-bit printer software (with drivers) in compatibility mode? I doubt that they would work, but it may be worth a shot

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I agree

by LarryD4 In reply to Not True

Been running around here at work getting printers to work with Vista64 and we have even gotten a HPLJ 4 to work off of a Vista 64 bit OS.

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HP does have 64 bit drivers

by ugadata In reply to Was buying computer with ...

the Officejet 7410
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=391194&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us&submit=Go%20%C2%BB

The officejet 3310
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=447857&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us&submit=Go%20%C2%BB

The Officejet 950
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=58558&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us&submit=Go%20%C2%BB

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Thank all of you for your input

by jstewartjr In reply to HP does have 64 bit drive ...

Thank all of you very much for your help. I feel that from all your comments it boils down to my installing a copy of an XP Pro 32 bit OS. Possibly I could remove the HD and install a spare (new) SATA HD which I happen to have on hand and install XP Pro on that. Then later I could simply reinstall the original HD and not have the hassle of licensing. Appreciate any comments on that route.
And Ugadata I did download and install those updates but the scanning portion would not allow me to scan to any program other than "Paint". And did you notice the updates are identical for the 3310 and 7410 and the 950 had 0 byte size. Additionally the 3310 lost the ability to scan slides.

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I have an HP machine

by LarryD4 In reply to Was buying computer with ...

My wife uses an HP machine with the same OS and I have to say, thus far no problems. We have a few 32 bit apps that run on the machine without any issue, but then again I am not sure what types of apps you are trying to run.

Most "older" printers, even one's with parallel ports will run on Vista, even 64, if you get a USB to Parallel cable. You will need to use the very basic drivers and if its a unique printer you will have issues.

But your best alternative, which will allow you to do all the things you want to do and use your older stuff, is use the WinXP 64bit OS. I use that on my PC at home and I love it.

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