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March 14, 2008 at 10:27 pm #2243179
What are people’s thoughts on Open Source as Terrorism
Lockedby smoupre · about 15 years, 2 months ago
Interesting parallels between Open Source and terrorism:
http://www.theobjectiveobserver.com/articles/technology03.shtml
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March 15, 2008 at 12:46 am #2575593
the parallels
by jaqui · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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are closer between proprietary software companies and terrorism though.
open source is about choice, not this way of no way like both terrorism and proprietary software want it.
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March 15, 2008 at 9:09 pm #2575354
Cmon now Jaqui
by drowningnotwaving · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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You can’t argue with a d’ckhead by being a d’ckhead yourself !!!
In the nicest possible fashion of course …
🙂
Just because the company that invented the wholesale use of “Fear Uncertainty and Doubt” as a professional tool (and I mean IBM of course), was interested only in the proprietary takeover of the entire world, doesn’t mean you can jump to such conclusions ….
However you’ve given a brilliant example of the critical requirement of being the FIRST and LOUDEST to argue any side of an emotional argument !!
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March 15, 2008 at 2:25 am #2575588
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter
by neilb@uk · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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🙂
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March 15, 2008 at 5:31 am #2575569
Thank you –
by tony hopkinson · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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that was absolutely hilarious.
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March 15, 2008 at 8:16 am #2575533
Actually, a Cult would be a better definition
by thechas · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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Actually, it would be more appropriate to classify the Open Source community as a cult rather than a terrorist organization.
If you look at the characteristics described in the article to describe a terrorist organization, they also define a cult.
Comparing the Open Source community to a terrorist organization either shows the authors bias or marketing savvy.
Cults can either grow into social movements, devolve into terrorist groups, or be interesting footnotes in time.
A cult in and of itself is not a problem or a danger unless the members take themselves and the aspirations of their leader to seriously.
Chas
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March 15, 2008 at 9:44 am #2575516
And since we’re all geeks
by nicknielsen · about 15 years, 2 months ago
In reply to Actually, a Cult would be a better definition
would that be the cult of lack of personality? :0
Edit: let’s perpetuate another stereotype…
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March 15, 2008 at 11:32 am #2575492
Damn you Nick!
by jmgarvin · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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No I have Cult of Personality in my head…WHY GOD!!??? WHY!!???
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March 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm #2575476
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March 15, 2008 at 8:49 pm #2575357
Fear as a weapon
by smoupre · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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I think that the “use of fear as a weapon” is the distinguishing factor between terrorism and cult.
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March 15, 2008 at 9:12 pm #2575352
That is interesting
by drowningnotwaving · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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I think if you read any reasonable book about cults and their practises, you’ll find [b]fear[/b] of change, [b]uncertainty[/b] of the outside world, and [b]doubt[/b] about how people will be treated if they were to leave the cult, right up there with other emotional ties that are used to keep the wavering masses locked in.
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March 15, 2008 at 9:22 pm #2575348
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March 15, 2008 at 9:49 pm #2575340
OK, that’s true, but…
by smoupre · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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That is using fear as a tool, not as a weapon against someone external to the cult. Open source does make the security argument against M$ in an attempt to sway people to their side.
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March 16, 2008 at 1:54 am #2575314
Just puting up a reasonable
by j-mart · about 15 years, 2 months ago
In reply to OK, that’s true, but…
opinion based on facts and real world experience.
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March 16, 2008 at 7:46 am #2575248
Be hard to get to who did what to whom first but
by tony hopkinson · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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but MS have a whole range of fear based arguments they trot out to ‘combat’ open source, and security is a well known chink (ffs sake the PC muppets are at it again) gap then) in the armour of the general user with windows.
Personally I think they should get hit on quality (code quality !) more often, but the security problems in windows are a highly visible manifestation of that.
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March 16, 2008 at 7:40 am #2575250
Actually reaction against cults is the
by tony hopkinson · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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fear of not us.
More to the point, what would you call Awe and Destruction, or panic inducing weapons like the Katyuska and the Nebelwerfer.
What would you call low welfare and high unemployment.
Come to think of it what is the judicial system, or even parental guidance?
All use fear, it’s such a useful weapon, and in the main very effective, unless you over use it, and the victim becomes used to being scared.
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March 15, 2008 at 9:56 am #2575510
Personally, I thought the article
by tig2 · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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Was well written with a good use of grammar and
language…And full of sh*t.
There was enough assumption presented as fact to choke
an elephant and enough globalization of thought to last a
lifetime. Evidence and citation were sadly lacking.I’d give a 2. Maybe a 3 for sentence structure and lack of
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March 15, 2008 at 11:25 am #2575494
Tig
by santeewelding · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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You trade your (permissible) cloak for the (permissible) sword.
In swinging it, you may have been taken a bit much by the subject without as much eye to the delivery. Or vice-versa. Or one on account of the other.
I had previously skipped reading the original article. Your strong take, however, inveigled me into checking it out.
The semicolons were too frequently misapplied to be typos, I thought. The sentences were too often run on, I thought. The possessives (2) were thoughtless, I thought. The “universally” and the “everyone” were redundant, I thought. The hyphen in “super-model” was unrequired, I thought.
I thought that it was a tongue-in-cheek, jumping-off piece (hyphenation ok?). I wouldn’t go as far as “sh*t.”
But, then, I do characterize you as “consistent,” not absolute, in your comprise. You do know how to swing with unacceptance.
…Edited to add that two more have come in swinging with deep appreciation of the subject.
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March 15, 2008 at 12:30 pm #2575483
‘Objective Observer’ indeed
by robo_dev · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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Don’t waste your breath on this loser.
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March 15, 2008 at 1:52 pm #2575472
What a Moron… by dawgit · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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He doesn’t even have the guts to state who he really is. Just another half-thinker, convinced he’s got all the answers, and hiding in the shadows, in case someone call him out on his half-a$$’d remarks. oh-well, it takes all kinds. Maybe he’s a regular guest on that Blush Pimpberg, radio show-off thing. -d
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March 15, 2008 at 2:32 pm #2575462
Ohhhhhh, come on, now
by seanferd · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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So open source resembles those who fought for independence in the American Revolutionary War? 😀
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March 15, 2008 at 8:37 pm #2575358
This was satire, right??? Right???
by jmgarvin · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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NT
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March 16, 2008 at 1:49 am #2575316
It’s only software
by j-mart · about 15 years, 2 months ago
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Some, take themselves much too seriosly, My first thought to the author ” get a life “. I doubt if there is anyone who produces software, be it open or closed source, who does so on any politically or idelogical grounds. The reasons I see for writting any software is : to earn a living : for the intelectual stimulation and joy of solving a problem : to impress your peers how clever you are : all seem much more likely reasons to me.
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