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What should we do with the uninsured?

By AV . ·
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I think this was a good question that Wolf Blitzer posed to Ron Paul on the CNN Tea Party Republican debates of Sept. 12, 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF64QzDSG60&NR=1

Its a tough issue, but very relevant to our times. I'm surprised at the crowd enthusiasm to let the guy die because he didn't take personal responsibility for himself. I don't want to pay for the uninsured either, but what should really be done if people won't take personal responsibility for their own health insurance? 50 million people are uninsured in this country. Charity can't handle that.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2011/September/14/census-data.aspx

AV

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Off with their heads!

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to What should we do with th ...

Let them eat cake!

A better question is 'How do we de-industrialize the medical and pharmaceutical industries?'

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I wish I knew

by AV . In reply to Off with their heads!

We really need affordable healthcare in this country that isn't tied to employers. Why can't I shop for a good deal on healthcare just like I buy everything else?

AV

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I wish I knew, too.

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to I wish I knew

What I do know, is that it appears to me that profit is the driving force behind health care, not caring for people. It takes the latter for health care to be effective. How to take us back in time without losing the advantage technology affords? Another big question.

Another thing I think, fear of death seems to drive (most) consumers of health care. This gives the edge to the profiteer. Fear of anything is a horrid 'goad', but fear of death, the inescapable, is downright ludicrous. Somewhere along the line, this nation became a nation of the fearful. That's our downfall, in all directions. Fear is a killer.

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Everyone needs healthcare

by AV . In reply to I wish I knew, too.

I think you're right that health care companies put profit over people. There is no caring anymore. What happened to us as a people that we don't care about one another anymore? Its now all big business. Maybe there are too many of us where if a few get sick and die off it doesn't matter.

I think the fear of death has always driven most people to try to plan for health issues in some way. Everyone thinks about that sometime, but why isn't there an affordable option for the masses to have health care that would give you some security? Maybe health care companies should reconsider why they are in business. They can make a profit, but they have to be about people first.

AV

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Because

by santeewelding In reply to I wish I knew

There is no way you can "buy" commitment to your own cause. You get off your *** and do it yourself, beginning with the who, what, where, when, why, and how of illness and injury for your own self.

That's right. You.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, man.

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Because

Re: Necessary x Sufficient -> Doctors get sick and die too.

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Contriteness

by santeewelding In reply to Sorry to burst your bubbl ...

No need. Besides, your needle is bent to no effect upon what is not a bubble.

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There is no needle

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Contriteness

it is only the bends.

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Bring in a consultant to do the dirty work...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to I wish I knew

May I recommend Hugo Chavez?
Just tell him you'll have the CIA stop giving him cancer if he succeeds.

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Side note: employer provided health benefits

by CharlieSpencer In reply to I wish I knew

started during WW2. With a government imposed wage freeze on, employers who wanted top talent had to provide something to differentiate themselves from others also hiring. Health benefits weren't covered under the wage freeze, so subsidizing medical care indirectly increased income.

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