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What to do if you ace a technical interview but they lowball the offer?

By ManiacMan ·
I was at an interview not long ago for an IT Consulting firm in which I aced their interview process and they made me an offer. I did state on the application and verbally to the interviewer what my desired salary was. She was a bit dissapointed in my figure and asked if I was flexible, so I said I am depending on the entire package that they're offering. About a few days after the interview, I get an email with a formal offer letter and I was shocked at what I saw. They're offering me about $25,000 less than my desired salary. Now I can understand if they can't offer what I want, but to lowball me with a salary that I made 10 years ago in my career is not only insulting, it's very unprofessional on their part for what they call a "Senior level" position, which also involves managing field techs and engaging customers on a pre-sales and post-sales basis, as well as project management work. Do they expect me to haggle with them until I accept their peasly and pathetic offer, or should I just outright decline and move on? I'm still waiting on other offers, but I don't want to take a job in which I'll hate myself and be miserable because I shortchanged myself.

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25k, that must be some package

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to What to do if you ace a t ...

In fact it must be, given you are even considering it.

I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here, but their personel turnover must be horrendous.

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What package? Medical and 401K which come out of my pocket anyway?

by ManiacMan In reply to 25k, that must be some pa ...

I'm not considering it if they can't do better than that pathetic excuse for an offer. I told them I don't need medical coverage because I'm covered under my wife's plan through her employer, and the 401k comes out of my paycheck anyway, so what are they really contributing to here? I have an uncanny feeling that this place is a revolving door or an H1-B body shop if they lowball with such insulting offers. I've disclosed my salary history, and I told them that I was an independent 1099 contractor on my last gig and grossed about $125,000 for the year. They offered me $90,000 base, which is what I made about 7 years ago, and they call this a senior level position which also expects me to respond to emergency calls on a 24/7/365 basis? I'd like to know what they're smoking because I want some of it too...LOL :^0

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No free

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to What package? Medical an ...

**** jobs?

May be time to find a tactful way to say f**k off.

Tactful isn't one of my strong points though, with me they'd get the straight anglo saxon...

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I spoke to them today and this is what I got back

by ManiacMan In reply to No free

As a salaried employee, they can't offer more because they have to pay all of their "techs" equally. So much for calling this a "senior level" position. They are willing to work with me on a 1099 hourly basis and can offer me a higher rate, but they can't guarantee that I'll be working at least 40 hours a week. I've got a second pending interview with another firm and I'll see where that takes me, as they're in the financial services sector and can pay me the salary I seek. Decision, decision!

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You sure you're not from New York? :^0

by ManiacMan In reply to No free

You'd fit in just well as a New York resident because you're not afraid to flip somebody off if you're not satisfied with the conditions. For what it's worth, we need more people like this in IT who can tell it like it is to these lowballing companies. Perhaps when enough people start squeezing for more money, the firms will start listening and we'll be paid accordingly.

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I'll go over the top here..

by Jaqui In reply to What to do if you ace a t ...

make a counter offer to them for the same amount over your last rate as they went under it.

cut back on the availability to a 40 hour week as well.

if they don't respond with a counter offer, then they aren't worth working with.

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I don't think they'll like the idea of me not being available 24/7/365

by ManiacMan In reply to I'll go over the top here ...

If they expect me to work over 40 hours a week, then they had better pay me OT at time and a half. I've worked as an exempt salaried employee before and all I can say about it is that it's a fancy term for a sweatshop employee. I personally think that 40 hours is more than enough on salary and anything over that should be compensated accordingly.

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probably not

by Jaqui In reply to I don't think they'll lik ...

but you have to cover the subject in the contract, or you screw yourself over on it.
which is why you need to specify that the base salary only covers 40 hours in a week. anything above is overtime and is paid for according to local labour laws.
[ here, an employer must give you 38 consecutive hours off in any given 7 day period or it is overtime until such a period of off time occurs. nice for the overtime pay, bad for the taxes ]

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They're offering this as a full-time position. Yeah, they're crazy I think

by ManiacMan In reply to probably not

But I agree with you on the 40 hours a week stuff. If they expect extended support on an OT exempt basis, then they can kiss their offer goodbye and stick it where the sun don't shine. This isn't an offer then, it's a sweatshop invitation if they expect anyone to work non-stop without proper compensation.

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Here's the question do you want to work there?

by CG IT In reply to They're offering this as ...

make a counter offer if you really want to work for them if not I would politely decline the offer.

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