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what to do now?

By mott ·
i bought a what seemed "too good to be true" type of deal, but not really knowing about computers and how much they should cost, i went ahead and got it. my problem is that i think i purchased a stolen computer. it's a dell 2.2 hertz tower something? i paid $400 for it used. i got it from a friend, who said he bought them from a guy he knew who was selling them for a major corporation who was upgrading. i guess i didn't ask about "The guy" since we we're dealing with a "corporation??" i tried upgrading the software on it and it wouldn't allow me to do so. something about it not being able to identify or verify the authentication. so i'm not sure if the software is the bad part, or if it's both hardware and software? i'm rather concerned now.

my dilema is this:

i don't have enough to purchase a new computer and OBVIOUSLY i don't want to get into trouble. can anyone with similar experience help me or advise me on what i should do??

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Thoughts

by JamesRL In reply to what to do now?

It is quite possible that this is a perfectly legitimate PC sold to you legally.

BUT just because they transfer the hardware to you legally, doesn't mean you have the right to the software.

Corporate volume license versions of the OS are designed to be upgraded not from MS's website but by putting the updates in a corporate server. MS closed that loop in SP2 if I recall correctly, and now that is the only way to go. Thats why you got the error message - MS recognizes this as a corporate desktop under volume licensing and won't allow you to do the updates.

What can you do? You can buy a new retail copy of MS XP and install it. Format the HD and start from scratch and you will be fine.

By the way, it doesn't sound like a huge deal, you can buy refurbished PCs for the same amount from places like tigerdirect.com, and they come with a warranty. If you can get your money back, you might do better from them - and most of the main manufacturers PCs come with XP. I paid $429 CDN for a modern refurbished desktop with lots of toys (DVD Burner/card reader) with a legal copy of XP and a 90 day warranty.

Or you could just put Linux on it.

James

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Police Auction Purchase

by snicholson In reply to Thoughts

I bought a PC from a police auction. I searched the contents and found the name of the orginal owner. I called him. Boy, was he upset. He had been calling the police every week asking about his computer. His insurance finally paid off and he got another. He had already spent hours and hours rebuilding his data so he didn't want it back, but was upset that the police did not call him. The serial number was still on the computer and easily read.

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Police auctions?

by lelizondo In reply to Police Auction Purchase

SNicholson,

I live in the Chicagoland area...where are the police auctions?

Please email me details/links. Thanks

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Not quite right

by DNSB In reply to Thoughts

JamesRL scribbled: "Corporate volume license versions of the OS are designed to be upgraded not from MS's website but by putting the updates in a corporate server. MS closed that loop in SP2 if I recall correctly, and now that is the only way to go. Thats why you got the error message - MS recognizes this as a corporate desktop under volume licensing and won't allow you to do the updates."

Odd, I've never seen that here. We use VLM licensed versions of Microsoft products and haven't run into any issues with Windows/Microsoft updates requiring us to use a local SUS/WSUS server.

I have seen corporate discard computers that had the hard drive overwritten with a image that had a recyled Windows XP license code. This required a new license to be purchased since Microsoft showed the license as already in use. I've also had flinking IBM laptops that when the laptop was restored from the restore partition required re-activation. Again more calls and discussion with MS's support about the legitimacy of doing so.

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Check the hardware first

by mjd420nova In reply to what to do now?

If the hardware appears intact, I'd get a new upgrade version of WINXPHOME W/ SP2. They run around $60. and would allow you to upgrade with authentication, and the any upgrades of other software will be okay. I actually prefer to do the upgrades anyway, as then it will be installed the way I want it, with or without the options.

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Upgrade would not be legal

by AndyW360 In reply to Check the hardware first

An XP Home upgrade would not be legal because you have to own the original software you are upgrading from and in this case the person doesn't own the original software.

You would have to purchase an FPP ( Full Packaged Product ) from a retailer, format and install to be legal with the software.

As for the hardware, ask the friend you bought from for the corporations name then check and see if they have upgraded their hardware for your peace of mind.

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Legal.

by pkr In reply to Upgrade would not be lega ...

This is the quote from Microsoft today. First relevant part of XP/Pro SR2 EULA
14. SOFTWARE TRANSFER.
Internal.
You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer.
Transfer to Third Party.
The initial user of the Software may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA and Software to another end user, provided the initial user retains no copies of the Software. This transfer must include the Software and
the Proof of License label. The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a consignment.
Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA terms.

Then the XP home EULA although in my world no sane person would run the 'home' edition as it is lacking an many fields, especially security. Anyway here's the EULA

14. SOFTWARE TRANSFER.
Internal.
You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer.
Transfer to Third Party.
The initial user of the Software may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA and Software to another end user, provided the initial user retains no copies of the Software. This transfer must include the Software and the Proof of License label. The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA terms.

Volume licensing and OEM are different - and very hard to find. Some good reading can be found here http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/oempreac.mspx

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Sounds Legal

by borshee In reply to Legal.

Well, I would basically agree with what everyone else has said here.
The sale sounds legit on the basis of the price, it doesn't sound like a "too good to be true" deal, it's reasonable.
The reason the software won't upgrade is probably due to the fact that you have been sold only the PC and not the Operating System Software.
As far as I know there is no way of rendering hardware unusable if it is stolen, only software and there are ways around this.
I would suggest you get hold of a full copy of Windows or another operating system and test it out before making any purchases. Maybe the guy who sold you the PC can help you with that.
Don't forget that you will maybe need drivers for all the hardware so I would write out a list of all the installed hardware before formatting anything and make sure you have the drivers first.
Good Luck.

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sounds like a simple fix to me

by n_kahnman In reply to Sounds Legal

Same thing happened to a friend of mine. He purchased a used pc with xp pro but got no disk. Turns out it was an illegal copy of windows. As one of the previous poster's suggested make a list of the hardware, buy an oem copy of your choice ,home or pro (much cheaper than retail) and format and install and your legal. You can also just go to the dell site and d/l the drivers for that particular model of dell before formating and copy them to a cd for after your windows install. Good luck

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leagle software

by thejdawg569_2000 In reply to Upgrade would not be lega ...

doesn't matter where you got it from, you can go to the authentication web site and buy online the authentication package. Don't know how much the home is but pro was 169.00 plus tax. simpist way if you don't want to wipe out and reinstal. or go to ebay and buy a secnd hand copy.

jdawg

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