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When To Call Time At Your Firm

By si_pert ·
I having been working for the same firm for near on 13 years now, starting out as someone who fell into IT by accident through to gaining experience by working the support desk and also learning from my colleagues and boss. I have just finished a Compta Network+ Certification course. My question though, is how do you know it is time to move on from your current job, and that old adage of "The grass is not always greener on the other side". I find that I am increasinly unmotivated by my job, but nothing has happened at work to make me feel this way.

Any thoughts

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When? Easy...

by ObiWayneKenobi In reply to When To Call Time At Your ...

When you feel the way you said you do. If you feel a job is unmotivating and that you either can't a) do what you want to do at that job or b) have risen as high as you can (this one typically occurs in smaller, family-run companies) then its time to look for a better position.

Sadly, I should take my own advice sometimes.. but need the money..

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Good Advice...Just doing it

by si_pert In reply to When? Easy...

Thanks for that Wayne, that is the big trouble isn't it, Money! It does tie you to a place especially if you have family, mortgage and other commitments (like everyone does).

But I take your point though, time to see what is around...

Thanks for the advice.

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Moving On

by ipkernel In reply to Good Advice...Just doing ...

Steady employment offers certain comforts: a paycheck, familar surroundings and people, the certainty that nothing is going to occur that you cannot handle because you've done it all before.
It also extends a level of discomfort: the feeling that you're wasting your life because you're really contributing nothing new, you're not growing, and any excitement in performing your job was long ago replaced with a sense of boredom and drudgery.
When to change? Well, the answer for all of us is the same. When your level of discomfort outweighs any perception of comfort, you will be sufficiently motivated to move on to greener pastures. Just as people have different physical pain thresholds, they also have varying thresholds of tolerance for workplace doldrums.

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well said kernal

by Shellbot In reply to Moving On

some of us have easier choices. I for one am a second income to the family. I have an incredibly low threshold for boredom and after about 18 months or so, if not given new tasks or things to learn, i get "wanderlust".
Even now, i'm in a good place, making good money, but its been about a year and 3 months, and if a few things don't change soon, i'll probably look for something new. I am financially able to do this, so i am lucky. Others have to hang on for the money or experience.

Having said that, whats wrong with putting your resume out there and seeing what happens? I mean, you can do a couple interveiws and maybe even get an offer, you can always turn it down and stay where you are can't you? But it might just show you what is out there and give you an idea if you are better off where you are.

You never know untill you try :)

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I don't quite understand

by j_most In reply to Good Advice...Just doing ...

When you say money, are you scared that you won't make the same amount somewhere else? or that the new job won't be as stable?

If your skillset will allow you to make the same or more in another company then you should definitely try to make a change to keep growing.

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Always keep one foot in the foot door...

by usokz In reply to Good Advice...Just doing ...

I have been in your shoes tie that binds!...but when the complacency wears thin...check out what is out there...doesn't hurt...and if you find something better so be it!

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Easier said than done

by abhoust In reply to When To Call Time At Your ...

I can relate definitely relate I have been employed by the same company for 10 years. When you have done all you can, although you financially can?t take the have to put your resume out and start the search somewhere. Yes, the grass is not always greener on the other side. What are the sacrifices you are willing to make, change usually involves sacrifices ? How bad do you want the change?

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80/20 rule

by roysten In reply to When To Call Time At Your ...

Paul Zane Pilzer has quoted something like this:

When one starts to work, most will spend 80% of time learning and 20% doing actual work.

So how do you know when it's time to move on? Paul says its when you find yourself spending 80% of time doing work and 20% or less learning.

And it does not necessary mean to move on to different companies. It can be moving between departments so long as one continues to learn new things.

I think this should be practical advice for most people.

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watch yourself

by enderle.matt In reply to 80/20 rule

I have been sort of playing the field.. just got out of college and no mortgage or family I have the luxury to get a job and see how I think the long term benefits will be, or not be.

I have been at 1 small consultanting firm, and 3 extremely large companies (cardinal health, nationwide global headquarters, etc)

The larger companies have side effects. Yes, it is a steady paycheck and that has its benefits but in a smaller company if you make suggestions to negative things that directly affects you where as in a large company your just a number.. just like office space. (the place im currently at, nationwide, has over 22,000 employees). As you would think there would be much room to grow and move up in the company thats not entirely true.

It would take years for that to happen (5+) and even when you really deserve that promotion that guy in those shoes isn't leaving until he retires or dies (who feels like waiting around?)

Smaller companies that have a good angle on the IT industry or have something that is steady as far as growth is typically your better choice (at least in my opinion) b/c you can ride the wave.. when it makes more money and the owner sees that you have contributed a massive amount of the positive changes and work load, he will give you more money to keep you around and the job will constantly change b/c the work that is required will change.

I'm sure you have heard of the phrase.. keep the low low and the high high.. that applies so dearly in corporate america.. I keep thinking back to office

You make your dicision - if you know the right people in your area you might be able to start in at a good position to move up - but I don't see too many young execs clearing 6 figures... most of those guys are over 40 which makes me want to think they were already successful apon coming into the company or they rode that wave when the company blew up and now are sitting in good shoes b/c of it.

Good luck with your possible job change!

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What If?

by poppawookie In reply to watch yourself

You know, all this advice sounds great; HOWEVER, what if there is really no career ladder to climb? I think you got it right when you said that the only way up in most companies is for someone to leave or die before the ladder can even be approached.

The grass IS greener on the other side until one makes it to the proverbial other side and finds out that just aint so.

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