When your burner mysteriously fails you...

By Slayer_ ·
I don't know if anyone else has ever had this happen.
Doesn't seem to matter what software I use, all seem to have this happen. Happened once withNero, and once with Deepburner.

Nero was awhile ago, I didn't investiagate it as much as I did just recently cause I was doing some multi tasking (middle of a game to also with no save points around ).
in deep burner, I was burning an audio CD, it just finished prepping the files and I heard the CD drive activate but not spin up. The program froze. Could not end process or end task it.

So in the interest of getting that CD done, I tried to load up Deep burner again, it showed up in process list, but thats it. Couldn't end task that one either.

So I tried to open the blank CD in Windows, when I dbl click it in My Computer, Explorer froze, could not be end tasked.

So for kicks, I end tasked Xfire, it worked. Not task mangers fault. So I opened up word document (cause its easy to open from task manager/new task) and did save as, sure enough, it froze when I click My Computer. Could not end task it.

I quickly rushed thru the game to a save point, shut down all my VM's and movies. And tried to first, log off. It closed all processes but those that were hung. So then I tried restart... nope... shutdown.... nope.... reset button... yep :).

What the heck went so terribly wrong? I had something like this happen once at work as well, trying to rip a CD for my boss using CDEX and it hung up, and the system did the exact same thing.

During all these times, you could still eject the drive, press its play button and hear CD music. It seemed fine. I even mapped a share to it and used it from another machine with no issues while it was hung like that.

Has this ever happened to anyone before? Know of any good way to cure it that doesn't involve unplugging the computer?

It's of course, not happening right at this moment, so I can only try suggestions in the future if it ever happens. All noteworthy suggestions will get a thumb :)

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I was brought up to believe only women could multi-task ..

by OldER Mycroft In reply to When your burner mysterio ...

Maybe that's why, if I'm burning a CD/DVD, I'm generally NOT playing a game at the same time.

I don't have system failures like you, but then again I tend to treat my system with a degree of respect.

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Whoops wrong Spot

by Jacky Howe In reply to I was brought up to belie ...

If I'm burning, I burn. If I play a game, I play the game. It took awhile for one of my Sons to realise, that it was the reason for so many burning failures. Mind you he was also trying to surf the net at the same time.

Edit: obvious reasons

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I wasn't activly playing...

by Slayer_ In reply to Whoops wrong Spot

I had it minimized, the burn operations only take 2 minutes per CD, so not a big deal. And whats the point of having 2 CD drives, 2 processors, 6 HDDs and 3 gigs of RAM if your not going to multitask?

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I've found

by Jacky Howe In reply to I wasn't activly playing. ...

that it doesn't seem to matter which burning software that you use, it likes to have control while it is doing its stuff. It's not hard to confuse it by running other programs at the same time, using up resources.

I always pick a time for burning and concentrate on getting a good result first time around. Less expensive that way as well. What effort does it take to close a couple of programs for a 2 minute burn?

Having said that I have gone surfing and downloading while I have had a game running in the background, and then returning to the game with no ill effects, while the download runs in the background.

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Well the first time this problem happened

by Slayer_ In reply to I've found

I was purely just burning discs. I was making backup discs.

Thankfully, when it happens, it doesn't seem to wreck the disc. But I've done some pretty hard core multi tasking and not had problems.

Now browsing the internet while playing is normal for me, I almost always have a browser open at some point. Either to read guides, check on game communities, download patches for other games, etc.
Even as we talk I have Star Ocean 2 playing in EPSXE on monitor 1, and this browser on #2. I took a **** break and decided to have a look at this question. I'll be going back to my skill guide shortly. I also currently have an audio CD burning on one drive, while ripping another CD in my other drive. And to finish things off, that VM is still downloading torrents. No problems yet, buffer is staying full constantly.

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Try this

by Jacky Howe In reply to Well the first time this ...

Open a command prompt and run this

tasklist /svc > tasklistsvc.txt

when you lock up see if you can drop to a command prompt and then run it again but change the output name.

tasklist /svc > tasklistsvc1.txt

Do a file compare to see what extra is running

eg: c>fc tasklistsvc.txt tasklistsvc1.txt > tasklistcomp.txt

Edit: to add that you could do the same with this.

At the command prompt <b>type wmic /output:C:\process.txt process get description,executablepath</b> and press Enter.

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And this will display more than what task manager displays?

by Slayer_ In reply to Try this

Can you also kill a process like this?

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And this will display more than what task manager displays

by Jacky Howe In reply to Whoops wrong Spot

It was intended to be used as a before and after, to see what is running when you are burning.

To kill a Task, taskkill Kill Processes

Allows a user running Microsoft Windows XP professional or Windows 2003 to kill a task from a MS-DOS prompt.

Note: Users running Windows XP home edition do not have access to this command.


taskkill [/s Computer] [/u Domain\User [/p Password]]] [/fi FilterName] [/pid ProcessID]|[/im ImageName] [/f][/t]

/s computer Specifies the name or IP address of a remote computer (do not use backslashes). The default is the local computer.
/u domain\user Runs the command with the account permissions of the user specified by User or Domain\User. The default is the permissions of the current logged on user on the computer issuing the command.
/p password Specifies the password of the user account that is specified in the /u parameter.
/fi FilterName Specifies the types of process(es) to include in or exclude from termination. The following are valid filter names, operators, and values. Name Operators Value
Hostname eq, ne Any valid string.
Imagename eq, ne Any valid string.
PID eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le Any valid positive integer.
Session eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le Any valid session number.
CPUTime eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le Valid time in the format of hh:mm:ss. The mm and ss parameters should be between 0 and 59 and hh can be any valid unsigned numeric value.
Memusage eq, ne, gt, lt, ge, le Any valid integer.
Username eq, ne Any valid user name ([Domain\]User).
Services eq, ne Any valid string.
Windowtitle eq, ne Any valid string.

/pid processID Specifies the process ID of the process to be terminated.
/im ImageName Specifies the image name of the process to be terminated. Use the wildcard (*) to specify all image names.
/f Specifies that process(es) be forcefully terminated. This parameter is ignored for remote processes; all remote processes are forcefully terminated.
/t Specifies to terminate all child processes along with the parent process, commonly known as a tree kill.


taskkill /f /im notepad.exe

Kills the open notepad task, if open.

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This is all sounding pretty good so far

by Slayer_ In reply to And this will display mor ...

Now I just got to wait for it to freeze again.

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By doing a file compare

by Jacky Howe In reply to This is all sounding pret ...

you should be able to work out what is causing the problem.

You could always have a play with this as well.

If you want a particular Windows application to always start with a base priority other than normal, you can use the Start command in a batch file to always launch that application at a higher priority. For example, if you wanted to run an application named PriorityOne at a high priority, you could create a batch file using the start command:

start /high c:\priorityone.exe

This command could be used to start the application at a high priority.

To run the command to have the application start in RealTime priority it would be like this.

start /realtime c:\priorityone.exe

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