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Which Ram is better

By ddog4040 ·
Im building my first Pc, and am in the process of chosing parts, but cannot decide between these two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104127

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231307

Ill be buying 6 in total to go with this Mother board...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157163

Any other suggestions would be great too.

Thanks in advanced

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64 Bit OS?

by TheChas In reply to Which Ram is better

First, unless you are planning to install a 64-Bit operating system, there is no use for more than 3GB of RAM. Any 32 bit OS is limited to 4GB of RAM address space with at least 750 MB used for system resources.

Next, without looking deeper into the specifications for the motherboard, I am not sure which RAM option is most compatible.

The Kingston is 1.65 volt RAM, the GSkull is 1.5 volt. You need to verify that the motherboard supports the voltage and not just the RAM speed.

That said, in theory, the Kingston should be a little bit faster. How well the system will make use of that faster RAM speed depends on the Front Side Bus speed of the processor you choose.

So, the answer is, it depends on:
A, does the motherboard support the RAM voltage?
B, what CPU do you plan to use?

Chas

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Yep I do have to agree with The Chas here

by OH Smeg In reply to Which Ram is better

It all depends on what OS and CPU you are planing on using as to which will work better.

But here from past experience when you want to Populate the Second series of Memory Slots on a Tripe Chanel M'Board you generally need to use the Fastest RAM that the M'Board will work with and not settle for some of the slower stuff as when you start to populate the second Bank of RAM the system will stop booting.

If the Kingston RAM is supported I would use that if it had to be one of the 2 listed but I would only recommend using 3 Modules.

Col

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Some opinions....

by ---TK--- In reply to Which Ram is better

HOLY GOD... lol, I would highly recommend going against the 12 Gigs of RAM.. $1200 really?
First here are the specs
Capacity 12GB (3 x 4GB)
Speed DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Cas Latency 9
Timing 9-9-9-27
Voltage 1.65V

Get a few less Gigs and save two grand... RAM prices will always go down, give it a couple months... lol... I would go with this for starters.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224
Capacity 6GB (3 x 2GB)
Speed DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Cas Latency 8
Timing 8-8-8-24
Voltage 1.65V
$189.99

Why would I go with 6 vs 12? RAM Prices will go down your G.SKILL has 0 reviews, 12 Gigs is way over priced, the Corsair has 248 (5 eggs) plus it is a tad bit faster.

Put the money your saving into the PS(1300+ watts)to run "ATI CrossFireX, 3-Way CrossFireX and Quad CrossFireX Supports NVIDIA SLI and Quad SLI" one of the two.. Either Xfire or Quad SLI... what ever you prefer... Great GFX cards/PS's make a world of difference!

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That Triple Chanel Stuff

by OH Smeg In reply to Some opinions....

Is expensive and has been going up in price for the last 6 months or so.

The cheaper way around that is to buy the RAM individually and not as a Matched Triple Set but you are getting cheaper RAM which may give problems.

Those Triple Sets are slightly different to Normal RAM and you get to pay for that. While I do expect it to drop in price much latter it is currently the Top Dog and will remain in that position till newer Technology is brought out.

Col

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More Info

by ddog4040 In reply to Which Ram is better

This is the Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157163

I dont know how to tell if the voltage is correct or not

This is the Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115212

And I'm planning on putting either Windows 7 Ultimate, which I think only comes in 64-bit but if not I have no idea which i have, or dual booting that and Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Im also not sure if that only comes in 64-bit, and if it comes in both I have no idea which I have. I may not have stated so clearly but I plan on having a total of 24 gigs of ram.(unless theres a good reason not to...) I truthfully have no idea how to choose a Psu, besides having a high enough wattage, but was thinking something along the lines of this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702015
Or:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159068

For the Gpu either:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
Or:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113

I cant tell if either of those will work with the other stuff though so...Oh and I'm not exactly going for cheap, as much as i am for fast, reliable, and long lasting.

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Well I would recommend

by OH Smeg In reply to More Info

RAM that is rated to DDR3 2000 as this is what the M'Board was designed to work with. The fact that it's also the most expensive stuff doesn't help but it will be as fast as the M'Board can use and it will work with all the Memory Slots populated.

Personally though I prefer Gigabyte M'Boards but may be that's just me, I've had excellent results with Gigabyte M'Boards in the past and less reliability with any other brand.

http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2986&ProductName=GA-EX58-UD4P

If nothing else Gigabyte has better Support Lists for CPU's and RAM.

From years of experience I prefer Antec Power Supplies as they just offer better protection to the Insides of the computer case

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?Family=MTQ=

My preference for Video Cards is ATI because they have not had the issues of outright failures that NVidia have and there have been no statements of Design Flaws leveled against ATI like there have against NVidia but that's just me however if you do chose a NVidia Chip Set make sure to run it cool and not push it hard at all and never overclock it.

As for RAM I like Corsair Band RAM

http://www.corsair.com/products/dominatorgt/default.aspx

Now for your OS depending on where you have ordered it it could be anything or it may be both. Some are supposed to be shipping the 32 & 64 Bit Install Disc's of 7 together while other places are specifying which they are selling.

As a general Rule of Thumb if they do not list anything it is a 32 Bit Version and can not utilize more than 3.2 GIG or Total System RAM. That includes the Video RAM as well as RAM fitted tot he M'Board.

It's a waste of money fitting more than 3 GIG of Triple Chanel RAM to the M'Board in a system like this so you really need to know what you have ordered.

I don't have a clue what Apple ships it's Snow Leopard as and their Web Site has no information about it and even less in the way of Technical Specifications on what it comes on.

I hope that is of some assistance to you.

Col

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