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Who are "They"?

By maxwell edison ·
Well, they'll stone ya when you're trying to be so good,
They'll stone ya just a-like they said they would.
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to go home.
Then they'll stone ya when you're there all alone.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they'll stone ya when you're walkin' 'long the street.
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to keep your seat.
They'll stone ya when you're walkin' on the floor.
They'll stone ya when you're walkin' to the door.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

They'll stone ya when you're at the breakfast table.
They'll stone ya when you are young and able.
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to make a buck.
They'll stone ya and then they'll say, "good luck."
Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they'll stone you and say that it's the end.
Then they'll stone you and then they'll come back again.
They'll stone you when you're riding in your car.
They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar.
Yes, but I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Well, they'll stone you when you walk all alone.
They'll stone you when you are walking home.
They'll stone you and then say you are brave.
They'll stone you when you are set down in your grave.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

- Bob Dylan

.......... Who are "They"?

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Hippocrites

by BFilmFan In reply to Who are "They"?

That was always my belief

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They are ....

by jardinier In reply to Who are "They"?

possibly the Establishment or anyone who tries to put you down in any way.

So Dylan escapes from these pressures by smoking marijuana. He suggests that if everybody smoked MJ also, there would be no antagonism between people.

Having been born in 1941 I was very close to the whole hippie scene in the 1960s. Bob Dylan was the voice for a whole generation of young people who rebelled against any kind of authority including their own parents.

The atomic bomb was still a major issue in those days, which was probably a significant element in the distrust of the establishment.

In 1969 I was living in Kings Cross in a rooming house. Certain persons would get stoned and listen to Bob Dylan all night long.

However while Dylan was the voice of the disenchanted generation he only sung about the problems and never suggested any solutions.

Well eventually he found Jesus who no doubt was the solution for himself, but his audience -- the young hippies -- turned to Eastern religions.

Because I am a lousy typist I won't give all the lyrics, but I will refer to two songs:

Come gather ?round people wherever you roam
And admit that the waters around you have grown
And accept it that soon you?ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth saving
Then you better start swimmin? or you?ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin?


This is another example of Dylan rejecting the established social order without offering any alternative.

And as for getting stoned to escape from the stresses of life, this number from the Beatles offers the same solution.

What would you do if I sang out of tune
Would you stand up and walk out on me
Lend me your ears and I?ll sing you a song
And I?ll try not to sing out of key
O I get by with a little help from my friends
Mm, I get high with a little help from my friends
Mm , I?m gonna try with a little help from my friends.


I hope this develops into a fruitful discussion about the many ways that the hippie movement made permanent changes to society.

To list a few:

You can wear you hair anyway you like;
You can dress anyway you like;
You can f*ck anyone you like;
Eastern religions are a viable alternative to Christianity which had become bogged down in dogma and tradition.
Wars are to be avoided if possible;

However while having a considerable and lasting impact on society, individual hippies for the most part sank to a lower level of general ethics than those of their parents and the establishment which they rejected.

I am sure you have seen the Peter Sellers movie: "I Love You Alice B. Toklas" which clearly illustrated that while the existing society was not without its shortcomings, the hippie society was not a viable alternative.

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Hmm ..

by stargazerr In reply to Who are "They"?

The neighbors next door??

The Boss??

The sales guys??

the Government??

]:)

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The Man

by DMambo In reply to Who are "They"?

They is The Man. Dylan was tellin' us that we're all gettin' it put to us by The Man. But we gots to turn it around and stick it to The Man.

Now all I have to do is figure out just what It is.

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It is

by jck In reply to The Man

a large, overly dry, unlubricated political corn cob.

Any more questions? haha :^O

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They

by maecuff In reply to Who are "They"?

are the source who back up my father for every argument that I've ever had with him.

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They....

by ITgirli In reply to Who are "They"?

...are the sound of one hand clapping

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ITgirli?!

by M_a_r_k In reply to They....

You're back! Yay! Is it you or an impostor? Where've you been?

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I've been working my butt off

by ITgirli In reply to ITgirli?!

I've been realy busy at work and at home and just haven't had much of a chance to jump on here. When I did, it wasn't really enough time to post. I'll try to jump on a bit this weekend since I'll finally have some time. I've been trying to write a book, actually two books. But with one of them I've hit a writer's wall (much more powerful that a block) and the other one I have no problem with ideas, but they are overly centralized and I'm afraid I'll never get any further than this one focal point. I'll be putting some info in my blog in the near future, I imagine. Well off I go again. It is nice to know I've been missed. Thanks!

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TWO books?

by M_a_r_k In reply to I've been working my butt ...

You've evolved from an avid reader to a starving writer. Is one of these books one that jd was going to help write? And for which I was supposed to be the editor? (With jd's spelling, you HAVE to have an editor.) By the way, every wall has a door. Even writer's walls. Seek and you shall find. Knock and the door will open. Or something like that.

It's good to know that you're alive and well. You know what they say about being all busy and no play. Or something like that.

Don't be a stranger.

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