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August 7, 2006 at 5:58 am #2257356
Who to Hire???
Lockedby ___.__ · about 16 years, 6 months ago
Experience aside….
Who do I hire?
The self taught IT guy, this being his first IT gig???
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The guy with the certification, this being his first IT gig???
Is the paper worth anything or not?
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August 7, 2006 at 8:29 am #3213537
All aspects have to be looked at
by mjd420nova · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
If that is the only determining factors that will guide the decision, then I would have to go with the self taught individual. The main reasons are the experience, and that can only be gotten with hands on. Almost any one with half a mind can complete a course and get the certification, but the book does not teach the real world, as things are. The first realization comes when the book worm finds that things are not as they were taught in the classes. The self taught has seen the real world and learned it the way it is. Just like a skilled IT person who comes to a job and inherits a very sloppy and cluttered server room, too many others have have their hands in the works previously and has been forced to work with what was there. If we all could have had a first time certified person when the process was started, it might be as the book taught, but we all know that’s a pipe dream. Most systems are a conglomeration of many partial installs on top of each other, often on top of older technology and with limited budgets. Making due with what you have seems to be the basic guidelines and few businesses can start from the ground up to build and implement systems that are to become the backbone of the business. Doing it right is the goal, but doing it cheaply and quickly is the mandate. Meeting goals make for short cuts and putting ten pounds of crap in a five pound box makes for some awful messes and equaly messy solutions. You see, it compounds itself and few employers realize this and are willing to go back to square one and do it right.
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August 7, 2006 at 11:19 am #3213436
As we have told you exhaustively
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
The situation and job requirements will drive the appropriate hiring decision.
The (lack of) name is familiar, Spuddy. Sorry you didn’t get it the first time.
Somehow I don’t think that many will bother with this discussion. We have already had it. What you may expereince is newer members responding that don’t know your history. Or you could experience thread hijack. Hard to call so early in the game.
Incidentally, if you decide you want to hijack my icon again, have at it. Anything to promote awareness…
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August 8, 2006 at 8:07 am #3214036
Hmmmm
by ___.__ · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to As we have told you exhaustively
Think I will get HAL9000’s icon thins time since I’m on his list. Looking at ya…..
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August 7, 2006 at 11:41 am #3213428
This is a hard decision, and should not be answered lightly
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
I can’t decide if I want steak stir-fry or if I want a nice Tbone steak on the grill. Both sound good.
I have had the grill fired up, but never got around to doing steak this year. No boys tonight, so it might be a good idea to do a practice run without them to get back in the swing of things.
Checklist, I will have to get some steak, some potatos, and better pick up some more Kingsford as I was near the end of the bag last time. Ohhhh, I know. Some hickory chips would be good too! Just need time to let them soak.
Should I do corn? Naaa. Too much work for just myself. A few potatos and a steak sounds good to me.
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August 7, 2006 at 12:47 pm #3213398
I appreciate the difficulty you are having here.
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to This is a hard decision, and should not be answered lightly
I would DEFINITELY go for the steak and spud combo. It is my preference for Saturday nights after a long walk.
Found some WONDERFUL porters that were excellent on the grill. Can’t keep my partner away from the grill- stove hardly gets used.
Get some charcoal and fire that baby up. Anything is better on the grill!
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August 7, 2006 at 1:10 pm #3213378
That is where training helps
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I appreciate the difficulty you are having here.
I have been teaching my boys how to make the grill smoke to give off more flavor. Without the smoke, it just isn’t the same.
Porterhouse does sound good. The filet is the BET part of the cow. A local chinese place used to make “Steak KOW”. Stir-fried Fillet with veggies! Too bad they shut down and it is now just a buffet! 🙁
Do you do any of the “rubs” or keep it simple with salt/pepper? I have a hard time covering A good cut of meat with anything. BBQ sauce is for covering up your mistakes!
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August 7, 2006 at 1:47 pm #3213361
Experience makes a difference
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to That is where training helps
I use a light rub of liquified garlic in a tad of olive oil. Then a sprinkling of Montreal Steak seasoning by Mc Cormick. I have blended something similar but have little time to mess with it.
For something lighter- and assuming you have more time- fresh rosemary (leaves only) in a mortar and pestle with half a garlic clove and a bit of olive oil. Grind well and rub. It is VERY light- the oil only acts as a carrier so you don’t get the oily taste.
I DO try to avoid salt before cooking. It doesn’t really impact well. I use a fresh grinding of sea salt at the table but if you choose to use a sauce, it is often unnecessary.
If you like mushrooms and onions, take a tablespoon of REAL butter- not margerine- and add the sliced mushroom of your choice- I like bellas- and VERY thinly sliced onion. Create a foil packet of the above and add the herbs of your choice- I use onion, garlic, parsley, and rosemary. Remember to put a small slit in the foil package before putting on the grill. Start about a minute or two before the steaks hit the grill. We manage to a rare or “softly mooing” time for the meat. This mix will even refrigerate and re-warm.
Nice to know that training and experience can come together…
Edit- subtract one letter, add another…
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August 7, 2006 at 2:42 pm #3213331
That does it
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Experience makes a difference
Because of you two now I’m jealous [b]and[/b] hungry. I think a trip to Taco Belch is in my near future.
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August 8, 2006 at 8:53 am #3213996
Mmmmmmmm….
by cmiller5400 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Experience makes a difference
Dang it. Now I want a Porterhouse! Guess, I will be firing up the grill tonight 🙂 I usually use a tiny bit of salt, more pepper, and a little powdered garlic on my steaks. But for the cheaper cuts, I like the Jack Daniels BBQ sauce for it. The more expensive cuts don’t need BBQ sauce unless you forget about them on the grill :p
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August 8, 2006 at 9:09 am #3213986
Exactly!
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Mmmmmmmm….
bbq sauce is for cheap cuts of meat and mistakes!
I cook with salt, and then don’t even bother having it on the table.
If you have to add salt at the table, it wasn’t made right! That goes for All FOOD!
And I HATE the people that dump crap on their food before even TASTING it! How do you KNOW it needs more salt? grrrrrr. Not in my house, bucko! 😀
Enjoy that steak! ;\
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August 8, 2006 at 10:45 am #3213929
Almost..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Exactly!
I agree about the salt..except when it comes to corn on the cob. It has to have butter and the grainy feel of salt just sprinkled. Of course, that is what I ate LAST time when I got so sick, so it might be awhile before I can think about corn on the cob. urgh..
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August 8, 2006 at 4:14 pm #3213799
Your Recipe sounds
by w2ktechman · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Experience makes a difference
a bit like my lazy recipe, except I omit mushrooms and go with grilled onions on top of the steak (after cooked).
Also, I add Lee&Perrins sauce to the mix (and freshly (crushed and wet) Garlic.
Another recipe is to use the Grill Mates as a base and go from there (personally I choose the Mesquite Marinade).
other than those, it gets complicated and takes a lot longer.
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August 9, 2006 at 5:10 am #3231960
Steak!!!!!!
by wingedmonkey · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to This is a hard decision, and should not be answered lightly
It does a body good
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August 9, 2006 at 5:50 am #3231934
Half our meals are steak
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Steak!!!!!!
on the weeks I have my boys. Steak stir-fry, steak fajitas, steak wraps, steak chili. mmmmmm.
It is twice as apreciated by the boys, because they were getting hamburger helper, but now they are getting off-brand hamburger helper. ewwwww! :p
The funny thing is, most people don’t realize a sirloin is about about $2 more for a meal than ground chuck is. Round steak is even less. When your cooking it in something, both of those cuts work just fine! 😀
On the weeks I am alone, I don’t because it usually is too much effort for one person. Make a batch of chili or something, and then reheat in the microwave for a few daze.
How do you do your steak? You didn’t add in your method! Share with the class! 😀
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August 9, 2006 at 6:10 am #3231924
hey!!
by jaqui · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Half our meals are steak
blade steak.
with rough-cut bbbbbbbbbll pepers, tomatos, steak spice and butter.cut the steak into bite sized [ or smaller ] cubes, toss it all into a baking pan, cover in foil and toss onto the grill, not a really hot grill.
let it cook for about 1/2 hour.
serve.the acid in the tomato, and the slow cooking style, makes the cheap blade steak very tender. 🙂
[spuds in foil with butter, salt ndpepper, slice the spuds into thick slabs and they take about 45 minutes on the grill. ]though the pepper steak mix actually goes great on rice or pasta.
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August 9, 2006 at 6:36 am #3231918
Blade Steak?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to hey!!
I have never heard of that cut, so I of course had to look it up.
http://animalscience.unl.edu/meats/id/CHUCK/bladst.htm
Almost a roast. Not sure if the local meat market would have this or not, as I would have just assumed it was a roast by looking at it.
“steak spice”, you simply MUST explain this a little better.
Would the tomato be placed OVER the meat or just thrown in the pan?
That looks like just the ticket for another change of pace without lowering the quality of the meal! Wunderbar! 😀
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August 9, 2006 at 9:07 pm #3276988
yup,
by jaqui · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Blade Steak?
it’s the cheapest steak possible cost wise.
if not done right then it’s also the toughest.the green, red, yellow peppers and tomatos and steak pieces are all mixed up together.
steak spice = Montreal Style Steak Spice, coarse ground black pepper, salt, course chopped garlic, lemon pepper…. a mix of spices that are great on steaks.
essentially, you are stewing the meat in the tomato juice.
change the blade to say sirloin, and saute it in a skillet and you get the same thing, a pepper steak saute.
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August 7, 2006 at 1:18 pm #3213372
Paper vs self taught
by crashoverider · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
I would have to say you have to decide who would fit better in to the department. The self taught guy sounds like he would be good for a job where he would be on his own and the certification guy sounds like he would be good for like a help desk answering position.
Remember with IT there is usually a lot of face to face or phone to phone contact so the type of personality would go a long way.
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August 7, 2006 at 1:52 pm #3213359
Crash- a quick note
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Paper vs self taught
The poster is a troll who opened this discussion about two months ago for the sole purpose of flaming respondants.
I KNOW that he has mended his ways and will not do such a thing any more.
After he was banned, all he could do was recreate himself. Pity.
Your points are excellent. I know that you are responding in good faith.
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August 8, 2006 at 7:57 am #3214044
Sorry didn’t mean to feed the trolls
by crashoverider · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Crash- a quick note
I did not know he was banned.
Some of my posts may anger people (specifically the ones related to government intervention) and I am sure some people may call me a troll but I post what I believe is the truth.
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August 8, 2006 at 8:08 am #3214035
Food?
by ___.__ · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Sorry didn’t mean to feed the trolls
Call that food. Not worth the bits that created it. CO more like BO.
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August 8, 2006 at 8:23 am #3214022
Hey CrashO,
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Sorry didn’t mean to feed the trolls
I thought some of your posts in one discussion bordered on the ridiculous (my opinion) and we may cross swords over some things in the future but you are definitely not a troll.
Maybe if we can hang a sign Don’t Feed The Trolls when they’re about that might help… :^0
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August 8, 2006 at 8:30 am #3214014
A big diference
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Sorry didn’t mean to feed the trolls
between your posts Crash and troll posts.
A troll just posts inflamatory posts to get people wound up. Expressing your opintion, even if it is wrong, is not being a troll. (not saying your posts are wrong, just covering worst case scenerios).
don’t you know some people are too stupid to care for themselves and NEED government intervention to take their homes to make a higher tax base? Where have you been? 😀
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August 8, 2006 at 8:35 am #3214009
There is a big difference between having an opinion
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Sorry didn’t mean to feed the trolls
And being a troll. I have read your posts. I have found them to be thought out and concise. I have never seen you flame someone. I have never seen you intentionally troll.
This idiot- a whole different story.
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August 11, 2006 at 1:41 pm #3230293
Gee, and I was going to say …
by too old for it · about 16 years, 5 months ago
In reply to Crash- a quick note
hire the self taught guy because you can always buy him the certs later.
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August 7, 2006 at 4:46 pm #3213302
Be a hard one.
by jim_p · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
You would have to look at their resume, or in the interview try and put to them situations and let them explain how they will deal with it, see which ones have the best experience and solutions. Because you might just get some one who has the hands on experience with the certifications, but I usually have to agree, it’s the people who have learnt for themselves, and mostly it’s the experience you are after not the paper.
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August 7, 2006 at 6:11 pm #3213272
Just ask a few questions
by zlitocook · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
What have you been doing, what do you like doing, what do you want to do?
What is your current computer spec’s, tell me about what is going on with Microsoft and the new patches. Can you update a computer in the field with out any help? -
August 8, 2006 at 2:43 am #3213195
So
by now left tr · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
You are the this suddy_m! What is with the ___.__?
As for your question, well to be honest neither would be good enough. IF I had to decide then some kind of test would be needed. It would be the only fair way to tell them apart.
Paper ? depends if it is small and has a denomination on it (or not)
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August 8, 2006 at 5:31 am #3213148
A bit of historical trivia
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to So
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11181-0.html?forumID=6&threadID=195828&start=0
You came into the discussion WAY at the end. I believe that you observed that it looked like a battlefield after a war.
Thus my response that this question has been exhaustively answered.
Kicking back waiting for the flames to start…
This yoda is the reason that you were not welcomed as warmly as you might have wished. Unfortunately, timing was against you.
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August 8, 2006 at 7:08 am #3213081
Actually, Tig2
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A bit of historical trivia
TechMail brought that on his own by some of his childish actions and comments. However, with that said he is still not even close to the id10t Spuddy_M. TechMail would probably still be welcomed to stay around if he wants to but I would suggest he matures just a little bit. Just my opinion for what it’s worth.
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August 8, 2006 at 7:47 am #3214053
Come a long way baby!
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Actually, Tig2
but still got a ways to go.
Sure, because of timing people already had their feathers ruffled, but it didn’t start with spuddy. it goes back to Not_Underage. Now THERE was a tool.
After that, there were a few, but easy to ignore, but it did start to build the more you ignored. Dawg did jump on a few nicely (wonder how he is doing?)
I had a VERY low opinion of Techmail because of the way he/she carried him/herself. There has been some improvement, but he/she will just have to decide the role he/she wants in TR. (I HATE not knowing gender!)
To be part of the group, you have to fit in. to stay an outside and just be an annoyance is also an option, but for the life of me I can’t understand why someone would bother. I do think he/she has made an effort, and will be given the benifit of the doubt, just like Justice was. He isn’t a bad kid, just needed to learn this isn’t a yahoo board or something along that line.
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August 8, 2006 at 8:04 am #3214039
Fun topic
by jellimonsta · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Come a long way baby!
Hey JD, maybe we should to a top 10 ‘TR Tools’ list? 😀
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August 8, 2006 at 8:41 am #3214003
Just be careful
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I nominate the Spud
tossing about their names. They might hear and decide to come back. Oh, perish the thought!!!!
:0
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August 8, 2006 at 9:00 am #3213991
Likely?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I nominate the Spud
I have never seen worse, here or elsewhere….
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August 8, 2006 at 3:07 pm #3213824
What!
by ___.__ · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I nominate the Spud
TOP 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!- Must get to number 1 now…
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August 8, 2006 at 3:48 pm #3213803
Sorry Troll Boy
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I nominate the Spud
You can’t get ther, you never WILL get there and you are only a minor annoyance.
Don’t even think that you are in our league. You are a pissant that only gets notice because it amuses us to hijack your threads.
Go over the top? Don’t see it happening. You just don’t have what it takes.
You are a SORRY bastard, aren’t you?
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August 8, 2006 at 4:56 pm #3213785
I dunno, Tig
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I nominate the Spud
He IS pretty witty. I don’t know if we’re up to the task..
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August 8, 2006 at 8:16 am #3214030
Thanks, JD. I had already
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Come a long way baby!
forgotten that id10t’s name! Thanks, for putting it back in the memory banks. X-( You are correct–that was the idiot that started it.
I agree with your summation on TechMail and I do hope he/she gets the idea and fits in. 🙂
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August 8, 2006 at 8:35 am #3214011
Yoda?
by now left tr · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A bit of historical trivia
As in ‘Yoda Flame’ Streetfighter 2? 🙂
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August 8, 2006 at 8:12 am #3214032
Jelli, I think
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to LMAO
he is one of the higher (lower) ups from here: http://tinyurl.com/el7f4
(Note: No, you don’t have to turn the volume down on this one. 🙂 )
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August 8, 2006 at 9:22 am #3213975
May be right
by jellimonsta · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Jelli, I think
Perhaps VP of BS? :p
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August 8, 2006 at 8:12 am #3214031
Take a
by now left tr · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Oh!
giant chill pill mate. What is with this ‘Hangman Game for a Name’ then?
‘a’?
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August 8, 2006 at 8:49 am #3213998
Cute
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Take a
The history- Readers Digest Condensed Version…
Last time troll boy was here, he hijacked my ID and icon. Then he changed his name about 6 or 7 more times until he altered the original post (to what you see now- apology for an unknown “guest” abusing a corporate system- although that may change again…). Then he changed to _____.___.
Love your current hangman icon- fit nicely with your post.
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August 8, 2006 at 3:06 pm #3213825
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August 8, 2006 at 3:41 pm #3213807
It’s Morse Code
by now left tr · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to NO,NO,NO
for K = -.-
So not so special K it is then!
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August 9, 2006 at 5:58 am #3231930
don’t you know your scripting better than that?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to It’s Morse Code
There is no “!” at the beginning, so where does the “not” come from? :0
We are talking short bus special hear, all the way! :^0
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August 8, 2006 at 5:05 pm #3213777
If you see Kay
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to NO,NO,NO
why owe ewe. Idjit.
This is not Morse Code. More like an old cryptogram.
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August 8, 2006 at 9:14 am #3213980
porkchop night!
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
It has been a while since having porkchops, and after eating ribs last weekend, pork sounds good! 😀
I will make half of them with bbq sauce, just so people get a variety to choose from!
What are you having for dinner?
Hmmmm, now I have to think of a side dish. Have to swing by the farmers market on the way home and see what looks good. got the boys for the night, so maybe some corn! :p
Oh look! It’s lunch time!
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August 8, 2006 at 9:51 am #3213966
Had chops last night
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to porkchop night!
Thinking chicken on the grill, have some fresh corn on the cob.
Hmmm.
Made potato salad yesterday but am thinking Ceasar would be good.
I shall ponder…
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August 8, 2006 at 12:30 pm #3213876
Go with Ceasar
by cmiller5400 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had chops last night
A awesome Ceasar recipie
Marinate 6 or so shrimp for each person in olive oil, lemon juice and garlic. Skewer the shrimp (don’t forget to soak the wooden skewers!!) and BBQ until done to pink (burn them if you so choose, but that’s no way to eat a shrimp ]:) ) Add to romain lettuce with your favorite ceasar dressing a couple of shavings of parmesan reggiano and serve with Naan flat bread. To die for!!
EDIT: spelling error
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August 8, 2006 at 11:35 am #3213912
Sides,
by old guy · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to porkchop night!
Grill onions (Vidalia if they’re still around) Yellow Squash, and Peppers (red and/or green) marinated in Italian Dressing and placed on skewers. Should cook about the same time as the chops. Fantastic!
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August 8, 2006 at 10:06 am #3213956
How many Cert Papered people . . . .
by a.techno.geek · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
Have you seen be able to do the job? I have a degree in Information Systems school and self taught. Well not really when I was 16 I went to a Unit Record school and graduated actually before High School, but at least the Unit Record was a formal education, graduated with a diploma.
In my personal opinion I would not give you to plugs for the cert guy. Anybody can book and test, I say prove what you have. That is the true test.
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August 8, 2006 at 3:13 pm #3213823
Right Then….
by ___.__ · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to How many Cert Papered people . . . .
“I have a degree in Information Systems school and self taught. Well not really…”
What is your point caller. You either DO or DONT!!!
“I would not give you to plugs for the cert guy…
On what basis then??”
They actually decided to show they could instead of just sitting around saying they could.
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August 8, 2006 at 10:13 am #3213951
Easy
by jellimonsta · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
Winner gets the job!! 😀
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August 8, 2006 at 10:21 am #3213945
OK, thanks Tig!!
by jellimonsta · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Too funny, Jelli
It was good to go back home and be there for my uncle. I ended up staying with him at his place so it was very good to be there, although kind of hard too.
Kind of back to normal now. I got back last week and started back to work and actually studying for my last CCSP test (which I passed on Friday) so it was a little crazy.
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August 8, 2006 at 10:30 am #3213941
Congratulations!
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to OK, thanks Tig!!
I don’t even want to think how hard passing CCSP is. I’m working on CISSP- compliance and privacy side- and it is tough enough. I am proof that you HAVE to keep learning. Otherwise it all goes away…
Good to hear that life is returning to normal for you. I think we sent all the heat your way for now- expect to see some better weather. It is rather nice here today and I think you get our weather about a day later.
Look for rain tomorrow… unless the weather person is wrong as usual!
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August 8, 2006 at 12:00 pm #3213896
Weatherperson…. wrong??
by jellimonsta · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Congratulations!
How can you even think such a thing??! 🙂
I am going to start on my CCVP next, then I may look at the CISSP. I went through some online learning for the CISSP a few years ago, but never took the test. 🙁
Hope all is well in MN. 😀
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August 8, 2006 at 10:44 am #3213930
Another simple solution
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
Hire the self-taught guy with the certification.
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August 8, 2006 at 11:00 am #3213923
Mark??
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Another simple solution
Where the hell have you been, dude? I mean, if you ARE the same MunderscoreAunderscoreRunderscoreK that we all know and love..
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August 8, 2006 at 3:19 pm #3213819
Yep I’m that MunderscoreAunderscoreRunderscoreK
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Mark??
I took a vacation in Kumbali Lygnot for the last few weeks. Unfortunately, I was subsequently kidnapped…er, man-napped, by a band of insurgent rebels bent on the destruction and hencheforth the overthrow of the Kumbalian Lygnotian government. I was then used as a pawn in the insurgents’ negotiations with said government. Said government didn’t buckle under to the demands of said insurgents and I was threatened with beatings and ticklings many times during my captivity. I soon began to plot my escape. Said escape required me to imitate a tree, a bat and a rhinocerous. Who says that rhinoceri can’t swim? Hell, I swam across the freakin’ Pacific Ocean in my rhinocerous persona. Stupid insurgents can’t row a boat to save their grimy souls.
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August 8, 2006 at 3:26 pm #3213814
Wow..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Yep I’m that MunderscoreAunderscoreRunderscoreK
Ummm..I went to Indiana for vacation. To visit my in-laws. And I got food poisoning.
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August 8, 2006 at 3:39 pm #3213809
You’re lucky the Indians only food poisoned you
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Wow..
What was worse? Being food poisoned by the Indians or having to pretend you like the in-laws? Back in the days of the Wild, Wild West, Indians didn’t stop at food poisoning. They scalped the white man. This is one vacation that I would have advised you NOT to take. A vacation amongst bloodthirsty Indians AND scurrilous in-laws? Jiminy Christmas!
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August 8, 2006 at 3:41 pm #3213805
Had I only
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to You’re lucky the Indians only food poisoned you
talked to you first.. oh well. I didn’t get scalped, so there is that. Although I did recently lose my hairdresser. Don’t you just hate having to find a new one? How do I know the new person will get my highlights just right? And what if they miss some of the gray? I may begin looking older than 29. And we can’t have that.
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August 9, 2006 at 8:56 am #3231851
It’s better to lose your hairdresser….
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
than to lose your hair. If you’re like most women, getting your highlights right is the highlight of your day. Personally, I’m more interested in a woman’s headlights than her highlights. 😉 Mae, don’t worry about looking 29 forever. Only certain extraordinary people like me can do that. And don’t you remember that on your birthday I told you you’re not getting better, but you are getting older? 😡
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August 9, 2006 at 10:15 am #3231830
I DO remember that..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
And thank you..that was very sweet. (tool).
I don’t really like getting my hair done, it takes too long, but I’m not willing to look like I have tinsel on my head quite yet..
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August 9, 2006 at 10:24 am #3231826
Another bit of advice
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
Don’t die your hair jet black when you’re 75 years old. Some little old ladies do that but I guess they don’t realize that it looks stupid for a decrepit, 75-year old great-grandma to have jet black hair. Similar advice to 75-year old men who wear an ill-fitting dark black toupee.
Oh, and don’t wear a bikini swimsuite when you’re 75. Similar advice to 75-year old men not to wear speedos. Well, actually, guys shouldn’t wear speedos at any age. That’s disgusting.
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August 9, 2006 at 10:28 am #3231822
Very good advice
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
Jet black hair at any age is a bit harsh. There is a woman who works at Walmart here in my little town, who has thinning long jet black hair. You can see her white, shiny scalp through the jet black strands. Not attractive. Also, as long as we’re giving advice..don’t go toothless. There is another woman in town, who drives a new vehicle, bowls 6 nights a week, yet doesn’t have her two front teeth. I’m thinking, if I didn’t have my two front teeth, I’d forgo a few nights of bowling, buy a used car and spend a little of that money on TEETH. I don’t care how gorgeous the rest of you is, if you don’t have your two front teeth, you’re just goofy looking.
And I agree on the speedos. They should be banned.
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August 9, 2006 at 10:49 am #3231816
Here is a visual for you
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
I wear a speedo. Dark Green. ;\
Beach party anyone? 😀
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August 9, 2006 at 11:59 am #3231796
Toothless bowling tournament
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
Well, Mae, you do live in Kentucky, don’t you? Enough said! 🙂
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August 9, 2006 at 12:01 pm #3231794
jd’s Speedos
by m_a_r_k · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
jd wearing Speedos at the beach will clear the place out faster than a shark attack.
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August 9, 2006 at 1:01 pm #3231777
did I neglect to mention
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
Speedo makes boxer style suits now? :p
Don’t worry, they are knee lenght! 😀
And no shark attacks in the great lakes, but you could get a leach you don’t watch where you swim!
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August 9, 2006 at 1:13 pm #3231775
Nope
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Had I only
I’m FROM Kentucky, I don’t live there, now. I live in Ohio. Of course, the town I live in is more redneck than Northern KY, so it’s not really a step up.
Besides, as I have stated before, just because I am FROM Kentucky, doesn’t mean anything. I’ve never had sex with a cousin and I nearly always wear shoes.
Okay, that’s not true about the shoes. I don’t have any on right now. I take them off as soon as I get to my desk and I don’t put them back on until I have to walk away from my office.. and at home? I never where shoes.
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August 10, 2006 at 6:41 am #3276876
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August 8, 2006 at 11:35 am #3213910
WHAT???
by dmambo · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
(Choose either one of them. Without any real experience, they’ll both have a lot of OJT to wade through.)
What???? spuddy_m????
Help!!!!!! Tigger(no space)Two!!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW Tig, I missed lunch today, so I’m curious what everbody else had for lunch. Anybody have something interesting???
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August 8, 2006 at 11:46 am #3213903
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August 8, 2006 at 11:51 am #3213899
A 3-o good is no good
by dmambo · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Roast beef sub
If it’s only 3 o’s, then it just loooks like a misspelling. See?
Good thing that you had the cheese to get those o’s.
BTW, who would you hire to make your next roast beef sub? The sandwich guy who’s had training at Quizno’s, or the mom who’s made sandwhiches for school lunches, but never done it professionally?
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August 8, 2006 at 12:06 pm #3213891
Gotta be the Mom
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A 3-o good is no good
Only a Mom can make a REALLY GOOOOOD roast beef sub. Something about the whole “Mom” thing.
My partner makes a really good sub too. But then, he’s a self taught IT guy- his degree is Mathematics and Economics. Still has his first Trash 80 though, must be a geek!
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August 8, 2006 at 12:11 pm #3213889
Not in every case
by dmambo · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Gotta be the Mom
My mom, God rest her soul, couldn’t make a decent school lunch if her left piggy toe depended on it. I was so far down the lunch trading list that I was looking up at cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.
I used to ASK to get school lunch.
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August 8, 2006 at 12:47 pm #3213865
Tig
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Gotta be the Mom
I have to agree with Mambo. My mother is, well, not very handy in the kitchen. She starts out making roast beef and ends up with shoe leather. When I was a kid, we never ate the bottom of a biscuit, we had to put two tops together, because the bottoms were ALWAYS burnt.
I gotta hand it to her, she IS getting better. Her cookies are at least edible now.
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August 8, 2006 at 1:15 pm #3213853
when there was enough money
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Tig
we ate good. Many hamburger helpers skimping on the hamburger. Single mom (divorced when I was 4), put herself through school, now has her Masters Degree in computer science. Has been department head, and is now an instructor an a local business college.
Through all this, we had good meals. I would help, and that is where I learned a lot. When I was married, I always did about 90% of the cooking, even when I was the only one working. I just hate doing dishes. :p
Maybe if you buy your mum a nice set of pans, things would turn out better?
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August 8, 2006 at 1:21 pm #3213850
If
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to when there was enough money
I bought my mom a set of pans she’d beat me with them.
I DID get her a really nice set of sheets for Christmas, she loved that. My husband does most of the cooking at home. I don’t really like to cook. I CAN, maybe not great, but edible. I just don’t like to. I’d rather go out.
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August 8, 2006 at 12:58 pm #3213861
There is a reason
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A 3-o good is no good
that when you turn mom upside down you get WOW. 😡
Where would we be without mum? I know for putting up with me, mine should be nominated for sainthood! 😀
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August 8, 2006 at 11:47 am #3213902
Potato Salad
by tig2 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to WHAT???
With smoked ham. Made it yesterday. Really good too.
I caught the spud out when he first posted. JD decided to play too so we have been talking about food. That is a good subject.
You shouldn’t miss lunch DMambo, it isn’t good for you.
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August 8, 2006 at 12:03 pm #3213894
just
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to WHAT???
chicken noodle soup and crackers because I’m still feeling puny today.
What I WANT, is a chocolate shake from Hardees. Have you HAD one yet? My kid got one and it was all I could do to keep from wrestling him to the ground and stealing it. I could you know, he’s still MUCH smaller than me. 🙂
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August 8, 2006 at 12:16 pm #3213885
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August 8, 2006 at 12:39 pm #3213869
Mostly okay
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Just puny?
I still feel weak, and a bit yucky. Enough to complain, but not bad enough to stay home.
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August 8, 2006 at 1:00 pm #3213860
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August 8, 2006 at 1:14 pm #3213855
So far
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to and the only thing stopping you
I have been able to stop myself from physically assaulting my children. But damn..that shake looked good..
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August 10, 2006 at 9:11 pm #3209561
Hmmm… Maybe he meant that
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 5 months ago
In reply to Dude..
“Hello DMumble – Nice Avatar – may have that one”
should be rearranged as:
Me Ham – unattractively behaved melon – Aloha
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August 9, 2006 at 4:41 am #3231968
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August 9, 2006 at 11:43 am #3231805
The technical interview is your friend
by jtakiwi · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Who to Hire???
Do either of these guys get it? When you interview them, does one or the other understand and relate basic concepts well? Do they know how to find the answers? Do they have good customer service skills? Good luck. All things being equal, I like folks w/ certs because it shows they are invested in this career field (not that non cert carriers aren’t), but w/ new folks to the field, it helps.
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