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Why does this website look terrible in Firefox?

By munsch ·
When i "let pages choose their own font" in Firefox prefs, this site and many others' default text renders horribly. Strangely, i haven't found any clear, concise discussion or solutions for this - just a lot of complaints on various forums.

The sans-serif default font here is crooked, wiry, and has a lot of bleed. Arial and other fonts render fine, but the primary workarounds - override page font choices, turn on Windows' Font Smoothing for the whole screen - are not options for various reasons (they break too many other things). Does anyone have a solid working solution to this irritating problem? And does anyone know why Mozilla has let this persist for so many years?

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CSS

by Grylee In reply to Why does this website loo ...

Firefox uses a different CSS style sheet default than IE. Basically what it boils down to is margins and padding in the CSS style sheet default of your browser. The only way to really fix it is to change the CSS code on the site and tell the browser specifically what the margins and padding are.

Basically lazy CSS is the answer

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Not the margins or layout.

by munsch In reply to CSS

Thanks, but i was talking about font rendering.

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It does?

by seanferd In reply to Why does this website loo ...

Never had a problem with this or most any other site in any browser (including both Mozilla-based browsers). Although Grylee's answer is quite valid, indeed.

What extensions do you have installed in FF? I'd disable them one at a time to see if anything improves.

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Do you have clear type turned on?

by Slayer_ In reply to Why does this website loo ...

IE6+ had clear type turned on for itself only, which made fonts look better. Check and make sure you have clear type turned on. In XP this is changed in your display properties. In Vista and Win7, I haven't a clue.

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Don't want to ClearType all windows

by munsch In reply to Do you have clear type tu ...

When i turn clear type on, it affects all windows, including my PuTTY terminal windows, and renders them terribly. First responder was talking about margin and padding and i don't think got the fact that i was talking about font rendering. Wish i could post a screenshot.

It seems odd that any modern font would display like a 1980s bitmap in a modern browser. There must be something else going on.

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Why can't you post a screenshot? I do it quite often.

by Ron K. In reply to Don't want to ClearType a ...

More accurately, I post a link to a screenshot that I've uploaded to Photobucket. <br>
I'd like to see what you're talking about. I do all of the things you say that you don't do and I don't have any problems. <br>
My first thought was that your monitor isn't running at it's native resolution and is at some other resolution that doesn't render well. My monitor <i>isn't</i> set at the native resolution but I am at a resolution that looks good, everywhere I go.

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Is this the effect you are refering too?

by Slayer_ In reply to Don't want to ClearType a ...

http://www.trevorsarchives.selfip.net/funpics/images/OrcaAvant.PNG

The left is Firefox based, the right is IE based. IE always has ClearType turned on for itself.

If this is your problem, you can always try and set up your cleartype using the clearType powertoy.

http://www.trevorsarchives.selfip.net/download/XPTweaks/ClearTypeTuner.exe

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