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Why would a diplomat . . . . .

By maxwell edison ·
.... who could be presumed to have a reasonable amount of intelligence and international savvy, do such a thing as smoke in an airliner lavatory while flying over the United States, and then when questioned about it by the flight crew, joke about lighting his shoe on fire?

My answer: Knowing he would be afforded diplomatic immunity, he was testing response times and methods.

Is there any other reasonable conclusion?

Officials said he had been smoking a small pipe in the plane's bathroom.

Then again, there was no mention of what was actually in the small pipe.

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The last paragraph is interesting too.

by Ron K. In reply to Why would a diplomat . . ...

<i>...was on his way to make a consular visit to Ali al-Marri, a Qatari national serving an eight-year sentence for terrorism offenses at the "supermax" prison in Florence, Colo. </i> <br>
That's a bit suspicious. There are some people imprisoned that still run criminal enterprises. I wonder if Ali is doing that.

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I think its deliberately disrespectful

by AV . In reply to Why would a diplomat . . ...

No. He wasn't a terrorist, but he is pushing the limits. He's testing our security. He's a privileged diplomat, so anything he does is swept under the rug. No consequences. If you or I even mentioned the shoe bomber, we'd be in jail.

Yes, he was on a Consular visit to an al-Qaida operative in the Supermax prison, but its common for those visits to happen, regardless of what the prisoner did. I'm not happy with that, but thats how it is.


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by NickNielsen In reply to Why would a diplomat . . ...

Knowing his diplomatic immunity would protect him from consequences, he decided he wanted to indulge his habit in flight.

The mistake was not the smoke, but the joke. That there were also air marshals aboard his flight compounded the error.

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by JamesRL In reply to Arrogance

I think he thought there would be no consequence on the flight other than a dressing down from the stewardesses, and when they touch down he waives his diplomatic ID and walks away.

He probably will get discaplined by his country.


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He probably will get disciplined by his country or . . . . .

by maxwell edison In reply to Bingo

...... be given a medal for uncovering and revealing information about our security measures.

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Last time I checked

by JamesRL In reply to He probably will get disc ...

Qatar was one of your strongest friends in the middle east, home of the whole C&C for the Iraq war, base for many soldiers, etc. Unless you think they are playing games.


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This is true, but...

by NotSoChiGuy In reply to Last time I checked

...Saudi Arabia is considered a 'friendly' of the US, and the list of 9/11 hijackers were all Saudi.

That said, I don't think this was a test of defenses. Anyone with a room temperature IQ could have predicted exactly how this would have played out; which doesn't seem to be much of a test.

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by JamesRL In reply to This is true, but...

Its true that many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, but its also true that many if not all of them lived in Saudi, as they would have faced arrest, torture and execution. Osama and his cronies have renounced the system in Saudi.

I agree its not much of a test, the guy who lit the bomb in his underwear provoked the same response, so what could be learned from another example.

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waves, not waives

by john.a.wills In reply to Bingo

Waiving is precisely what he did not do.

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Do you just sit waiting for a typo?

by JamesRL In reply to waves, not waives

If you want to point out a typo and then add your own opinion, thats constructive.

I was probably thinking of waives, and then recomposed the sentance. Sorry I multitask.


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