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Win98 LAN sharing cable w/o ICS??

By D'anno ·
Is anyone successfull sharing a cable modem on a Win98 LAN without using ICS?

Actually, I have two boxes successfully sharing the cable modem, but the ISP is dynamically assigning the IP's. I want to share file and printers on the SOHO LAN with each other and a Linux box, but having little success. Tried ICS with 2 NIC's in one box, but ICS client couldn't get past NIC to cable modem. Recently added the NetBUI protocol and one of the boxes found the other (but not the other way around??).File/Print services ON on both boxes and both have identical case-sensitive workgroup names. I'm setup peer-to-peer, but am still having problems. . . . with arms in air!

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Win98 LAN sharing cable w/o ICS??

by calves In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

I am not sure what ICS means, but what you need is some kind of Proxy, in your case something like a WinProxy for the name translation. I have not used it but I heard that Win98 2nd ed allows for network connections sharing.
The WinProxy you'll find it @ http://www.ositis.com/
The Win98 2nd ed you know where.
Now, I am not sure but the firewall on the Linux, may resolve your problem if you connect the cable modem to it and use the firewall for the name resolution (Although I entered this option, I don't think that they will have the software for it).

Good luck!

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by D'anno In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

Thanks. I may end up checking out WinProxy or Wingate . . . eventually!?

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by mphoffar In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

To do that without using ICS, you'll need to have extra IPs allocated for use on the other machines. I'm not sure if they can grant you additional leases for extra computers. Some companies do, others do not.

If you can't/won't get the extra IPs then you're stuck with using some sort of sharing program to use all the machines at once. I would go and check out www.winproxy.com. Even though you may not want to use their software, their support files are pretty good at showing you what needs to be done for a setup.

In your case, what I'd do though is plug the cable modem into the uplink port and then the two NICs into the hub...then install your sharing software and let that program set a lease to the other computer.

Mark

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by D'anno In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

I DO get at least two IP's from my ISP, but my LAN connectivity (Peer-to-Peer) is non-existant with only TCP/IP?? - All PC's have the same workgroup names, but can't see each other?

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by siis In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

Try assigning the IP address manually as 192.168.0.1 for the NIC attached to the LAN ONLY. Leave the NIC attached to the Cable modem as is. Then try third party modem sharing software such as Wingate to enable the sharing for the clients. Each client computer will then require subsequent manual IP's of 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3, etc. (number of attached clients may be limited pending on the sharing software) with the server IP, which you previously configured, specified as the proxy server for internet connection on the clients. This worked for me without having to install ICS.

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by D'anno In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

Thanks - I have gone this route (ICS instead of Wingate) and had a good LAN setup, but failed to connect to the internet. May try Wingate/WinProxy eventually . . .

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by McKayTech In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

ICS actually can work but needs to have static IP addresses on the LAN side. If you find the ICS product hard to work with, there is a product called Sygate that sets up somewhat more easily.

You shouldn't need NetBeui to make this work.
Once you've set up the ICS and the static addresses on the SOHO, from a workstation you should be able to ping the workstation itself (127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.2 if that is your static IP), the ICS machine at 192.168.1.1 (if you use the defaults) and out into the real world (try the ICS machine ISP IP first, then the ISP gateway and finally an address in the great beyond). Wherever it fails is where the problem is.

paul

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by D'anno In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

Thanks - have gone the ICS route and after expending much energy, had great LAN connectivity but only ICS host could ping outside of LAN. Even re-installed Win98SE, IE5 and ICS only, still no luck. Gave up and currenlty settling for the two IP's assigned by cable ISP but now have poor Peer-to-Peer workgroup connectivity??

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by Zalog In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

According to the documentation included with my cable modem (Motorola Surfboard SB2100D) the device is capable of being pluged driectly into a hub and thus sharing the Internet connection. After trying this, which did not work, I was informed by myISP that I would need to lease an additional IP address at an extra monthly fee. I have had limited sucess with ICS. After I cold boot I have the uninstall ICS to get the PC to see the cable modem. I think the better choice is to get a Cable/DSL router.

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by D'anno In reply to Win98 LAN sharing cable w ...

I've had the same experience, except that my cable ISP will lease me 2 unique IP's at least (usually don't get a third when my Linux box is on concurrently. I've had teh same luck with ICS - can ping all IP's on the LAN and outbound internet NIC, but not even my cable DNS server, etc. My ISP doesn't like the idea of NAT software - don't know about a router? Thanks

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