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Win98 - Phantom Bad Sectors

By redshift ·
I ghosted a Win98 2gig partition to a 6gig HDD and stuck it into a different PC. It seemed to run fine as I loaded drivers and went through several reboots. Then, suddenly, I'm loading the 3c905b drivers for the 3c905b NIC, and I get a blue screensaying that it can't write to C:, and freezes. On reboot,it comes up and says that there may be a bad sector on C and wants to run scandisk. Scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, Troubleshooter, and Spinrite find no problems with the HDD. The system actsfine except for this error on bootup that occurs just after Win.exe is executed. Is there some sort of flag that I can delete that will prevent this from happening if there in nothing wrong with the HDD?

I've repeated the ghost-load drivers-failprocess twice with the same results - it crashes on loading the 3c905b drivers. Although I removed the drivers, and even the NIC, it still gives me the error.

thanx!

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by mphoffar In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Clear the entry out of the device manger and make sure your network settings are empty and reboot. The system should detect the card and a regular PCI ethernet card. Just load the default drivers. Go into the device manager at that point and update the driver for the ethernet card. I believe the only thing you need is disk 1 to load the drivers. I don't think this is a problem with the hard drive, just something conflicting with the loading of the nic, and it's hard to say what.

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

The error happened one more than the NIC when I tried this - I just started with a fresh install as someone else suggested.

Thanks!

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by tchieng In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

When you ghost a machine, you're ghosting every little detail that was associated with the original machine, including the motherboard resources, devices, etc...

I beleive there's nothing physically wrong with the hard drive.

Try this... turn on the computer. Upon startup, press F8 to go into the Windows 98 startup menu. Select and start Windows in safe mode. Go to the device manager and get rid of all the system devices, hard disk controllers, network adapters and reboot. The system willredetect and re-install the correct driver components for this machine upon next startup. Install any other drivers that w98 cannot determine. Reboot as necessary.

If this doesn't work, then someone else might be able to suggest something else...

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Any tech worth the oxygen he consumes knows this already.

Thanks anyway!

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by bdgray In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

I had a similar problem associated with the last sector on several ghosted machines. It turns out that The HD I made the image on was about 20MB bigger than the ones I ghosted the image to. The system still reported that the 20 MB existed even though it did not. Hence, the drive reported error when trying to access the phantom 20MB. i had problems everytime scandisk ran in DOS and other flaky problems with applications in windows.

To fix this problem I used Partition Magic in DOS to shrink the partitions down by 20MB. Everything worked great after that. Make sure you run scandisk in windows first though. Hope this helps.

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

I'm not dealing with 20 MB here, I don't like Partition Magic, and Scandisk, Norton Utilities, Western Digital's Data LifeGuard (the offending HDD is from WD), and a few others found no errors on the HDD.

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by saihib In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

All of the above are sound ideas but it seems to me that if you get the same error after removing NIC and driver that you may have some leftovers in the registry. Try using Regclean (a Microsoft download) or do a Regedit search for 3c905b. I remember reading a lot of articles about problems with these cards. A Knowledge Base search gave me 5 hits and the Technet search gave 18.

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Good suggestion, dukey01, but this doesn't reek of a registry problem.

Thanks anyway!

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by bwaggoner In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

You did not mention what version of Ghost you are using. I do know there are some issues with older versions of Ghost and large hard drives. You should be able to download the newer version as long as you have your Ghost disk and the serial number. It will update your software. The problem is that Ghost writes the last sectors of the disk differently than Windows can read. This in turn gives you the bad sector message and problems trying to get your PC to work. Version 6.1C fixed this.

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

I'm on 6.1D - good suggestion though.

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