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By dlewenstein ·
Years back, when Windows 10 was being offered as a free upgrade, I downloaded the file. Since Windows 11 is now being offered as a free upgrade, I installed Windows 10, while keeping Win8.1 as my active system. I ran Windows PC Health Checkup to find out what hardware I'd need to upgrade to, but it told me that I need build 1803 or higher to run that program. Windows Update claims my system is up to date. How do I get Update to recognize that my system is NOT up to date and get it to update my system properly?

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Windows 11 is not out yet.

by rproffitt Moderator In reply to Windows 10 updates

So it's too early to install. The Windows PC Health Checkup is known to be defective so again we wait for Microsoft to issue yet another version.

-> You didn't reveal what Windows you have. Run WINVER and supply what it reports.

Also, many installs of Windows are either damaged or have antivirus suites that can break that PC Health app. For now, because Windows 11 is unreleased and strictly for folk to try (alpha?) no one I know is doing anything with it on their own PCs.

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Version

by dlewenstein In reply to Windows 11 is not out yet ...

1511 OS Build 10586.104

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That looks like a 5 year old build.

by rproffitt Moderator In reply to Version

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/version-1511-os-build-10586104-will-not-update-to/96e26beb-6930-4816-b53f-4c8f6a3d4286 notes this among other discussions on the web.

There have been folk that disabled updates or just don't know why their PC won't update.

After a client has all their stuff backed up or we pull their old HDD out to install a SSD for boot, we'll create new W10 install media using the FREE tool from Microsoft called the "Media Creation Tool" (google finds it.)

As to the license, it is digital and unless there's something untold about this PC, you don't have to enter the key.

After the machine is working again we add the old HDD as a second data drive so the owner can get their files copied over.

Summing it up. I don't expect the Windows PC Health Check to work on such an old Windows version.

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Media Creation Tool

by dlewenstein In reply to That looks like a 5 year ...

That WAS how I created the file from which I installed Windows 10. My option for updates is: Automatically.
At any rate, this is all moot now. I downloaded whynotwin11 as suggested by Kees_B and it worked. So, as I'm about to write in reply to his last post, I consider this resolved.
Once again, thank you, Bob!

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Re: Windows 10

by Kees_B Moderator In reply to Windows 10 updates

Can you tell more about "I installed Windows 10, while keeping Win8.1 as my active system". Seems strange. As Bob already asked: what does winver say when you're in your Windows 10 system that says you're up to date?

It's very well possible that Windows 11 can be installed to replace a Windows 8.1 installation directly. In that case, there is no need to go via Windows 10. Wait until the .iso file for Windows 11 is made public and see.

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Some clarification

by dlewenstein In reply to Re: Windows 10

Bob, can't give you the version yet. Rebooting is always a time-consuming hassle. As soon as I can get to it, I'll let you know.
Kees_B, I prefer to continue to use Win8.1 for as long as possible. I believe it has about another year and a half until support ends.
I'm doing all this just to be ready to get Windows 11 as a free upgrade. I haven't seen anywhere that it will be a free upgrade to Win8.1 users.
I hope that clarifies. If not, please ask.

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Free upgrade

by Kees_B Moderator In reply to Some clarification

Windows 11 isn't yet offered at all. But there is near 100% chance that it will be a free upgrade for Windows 10 forever, and - indeed - a somewhat smaller change (my guess is 99%) that it will be a free upgrade for Windows 8.1 forever also.

If you want to be really, really safe, install the current version of Windows 10 on a new (temporary) HDD or SSD. That will be free and work if your PC is authorised for Windows 10, as it apparently is. Then, when Windows 11 is released, upgrade to Windows 11 to make your PC authorised for Windows 11.

But first check if your hardware is compatible, for example running the program from https://www.whynotwin11.com/ . Please realise that Windows 11 won't run or only run unsupported on older hardware, such as practically all PC's that came with Windows 8.1 before 2019.

If it all works then replace that temporary disk by your current Windows 8.1 disk and you can switch to Windows 11 as long as you have this PC.

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Current version of Windows 10

by dlewenstein In reply to Free upgrade

Thank you, Kees_B. You wrote: install the current version of Windows 10. Where can I get it?

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Re: current version of Windows 10

by Kees_B Moderator In reply to Current version of Window ...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 has it. Use "create installation media" (DVD or USB stick and boot from that to install it. That is what Bob meant when he wrote "media creation tool".

Isn't that the same location where you got your 1511 version from?

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Location

by dlewenstein In reply to Re: current version of Wi ...

You don't actually expect me to remember where I got it all these years later, do you? I'm creating a USB drive right now. Hopefully, it will install an up-to-date version of Windows 10.
As I wrote Bob above, I downloaded whynot11win11 and it worked. As far as I'm concerned, this is resolved. Thank you, Kees_B!

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