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WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

By Garion11 ·
Hi gang,

I am in a dilemma here, any help is appreciated. I have 2 machines I am networking for a friend. They are very old and one is running windows 95 while the other runs windows 98. I have them hooked up to a hub. I have the right IP addresses (same subnet), same workgroup and the C drive is shared on both PCs. When I double click on Network Neighborhood in Windows 98, I can see both computers. However when I double click on the 95 machine, I get a message stating it can't be found. I can see it...but I just can't access it. Very weird, now as far as the 95 machine is concerned, it doesn't even see itself or the 98 machine in Network Neighborhood. I am at a loss. Created a user on the 98 machine, rebooted the 95 machine, removed the TCP/IP stack and Netbeui stack and reinstalled/reconfigured both, on both machines to no avail. I can ping local host only on both machines. The NIC card on the 95 machine (in device manager, it comes up as "generic" for driver manufacturer field) is suspect but how can the 98 machine see it if the driver is corrupt. This Q is worth 1000 points if some one can help me. Thanks in advance.

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by Garion11 In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

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by Shanghai Sam In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

Try to use a crossover cable attached direct to both computer (check HUB and NIC documentation about supported speed 10/100Mb, also check cable type). If you can't ping both computer, check again NIC drivers (half/duplex speed) and TCP/IP settings (Microsoft network).

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by DKlippert In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

Make sure that "File and printer sharing for microsoft networks" is installed.

Some have suggested using IPX/SPX rather then NetBuei or at least removing unneccessary protocols.

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by Ann777 In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

Use 192.168.1.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0 on one computer and 192.168.1.2 / subnet 255.255.255.0 on the second computer. Save and reboot both. Make sure both have link lights at the nic and the the ports on the hub are also lit up. Make sure file sharing is setup on both. Make sure the workgroup is exactly the same on both. Make sure your primary logon is set to Microsoft Client for Windows (and not family logon)... make sure that you are not canelling the first windows logon screen that appears.

See if you can ping the other computer from each. If yes, then you should be able to see and access just fine.

If no link lights, try changing ports on the hub. If no link lights at the network card, then check for conflicts in device manager. Sometimes are nic will work partially if there's another resource intensive device (video card, modem, etc.) in the computer sharing the same IRQ with the nic.

Because the win95 won't see anything in Network Neighborhood, I'd suspect that the nic in that computer is not setup properly. Boot to safe mode and remove all duplicates and anything else you see in device manager with a red/yellow error.

Post a comment with what you see in device manager. What IRQs are each device on the win95 machine using?

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by Garion11 In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

Thanks for all your answers guys, and ladies. I will post in 2 weeks on who won the Q & A. The reason is, we are moving the computers to another location and I am going to have to try to troubleshoot at that time. Until then the question is will remain open. I am pretty sure of who won already though.

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by fenaikh In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

Hi
Pls read these MS articles.


Good luck

Mohamed


How to Configure a Peer Network (Q250927)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q250927

Troubleshooting Windows 95/98/98 Second Edition Network Connection Problems
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q192534


***Very Important NOTE *********
After you copy the URL a space or a %20 maybe gets inserted in the URL when you paste it into your browser. Delete any spaces or such characters from the URL for the page to be loaded.

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by fenaikh In reply to WINDOWS 95 AND 98 NETWORK

more...

pls check that you have upgraded to winsock 2 in win95.


Computer with Plug and Play Network Adapter Is Not Found on Network
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q220586


A Description of Windows 95 and Windows 98 Network Protocols (Q294945)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q294945

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