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By abelnguyen ·
I have this problem. Any idea, please?
"I am an administrator in a school. We use windows 98 PCs connecting to a Windows NT server via a domain. We use Policy Editor via netlogon/config.pol to restrict default users. We do however require DifferentPolicy settings in Control Panel, Passwords, so that default users get restricted use on the PC, but administrators get no restrictions. If I set the option in Passwords to "All users of this computer user the same preferences..." then I lose the restrictions of the default user. I require to maintain the ability to have different Preferences and Desktops, but for the pop up prompt to save individual settings to defaut to <No>, and for the next prompt to re-enter the user password to <Cancel>. Can this be done?
When users log on in windows 98 what registry change needs to be made so that the question prompt "do you want to save individual settings..." defaults to NO and does not appear, nor does the following prompt to re-enter their password?

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by shmaltz In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...
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by abelnguyen In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Nice web site. However, editing the reg doesn't help in my situation. Thanks for your help,

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by johnleonard In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

I know exactly what you are going through. I do a lot of schools installations, and we use exactly the same setup.

I'll answer your second question first, if I may. if a machine requests a windows password after logging onto a domain, it would appear that the user has set a different windows password to their logon password. the easy way to fix this is to do delete all the .pwl files on the machine, so that a windows password is not required. as far as I can remember, this fixes the problem so that a single logon grants access to the machine. we then use policies to set the user desktops, restrict access to system settings and a whole host of other items (we have students from 6-16 trying to hack the system, so we have to lock the machines down so they can't hack them)

I would recommend using the policy system with some form of local security software, to stop people finding their way around the restrictions of the policy. The policy settings are not completely hack proof, unfortunately!

as regards the 'you have not logged on at this PC before, do you wish windows to save your settings' question, we had to find someone to write us a piece of code to fix this. it was a VB program that waits for the question to appear, then answers no to it every time. even if the question is answered yes, adding an item to the logon script (logon.bat on the server) can delete the contents of the windows\profiles directory so that the settings are not retained from one logon to another, thus removing the problem.

email me if you need further help on this problem - i deal with it daily and am fairly used to sorting it out!

hope this helps


john.

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by abelnguyen In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Thank you so much John. Your answer is really helpful to me.

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by ccnaguy In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Hi - I think that this might be another solution. On your NT server, change your profiles from .dat to .man . This should give the profiles and preferences that you already have set up as now being mandatory. Please let me know if this works, orwhat did work... Thanks & good luck

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by abelnguyen In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Thanks for your help.

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by JerryM MCSE+I / A+ In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Hi,
The answers are close to what you are doing, but to simplify the process,
on a win98 machine use the policy editor to create a new config.pol, for the default user restrict all access including login, then create Groups to which you will assign users like administrators, domaine users..etc...then you can set group policy's , the other thing you need to do is password protect the bios, edit the msdos.sys file in c (it's hidden system read only so use attrib -s -h -a -r msdos.sys) and change or add BootKeys=0 , BootSafe=0 for user's can't F8 to safe mode or prevent win98 to boot, on each computer use the policy editor to load the registry, then enable the setting Require validation by network for windows access. make sure that in the policy to create ( the one on the pdc/bdc's) disable registry editing tools and make sure poledit is not on any of the machines....that should do it....refer to the windows 98 resource kit for any more info....but that really should cover it..oh..btw..set the cmos to only boot drive c.....
Thankyou for the post!..jer

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by abelnguyen In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Thanks for your help.

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by Mark Fenwick In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

This is a common problem with Win9X clients. I found it so frustrating that I decided to develop a utility to overcome it, John mentioned this in his earlier answer.

You can find the utility along with instructions on using it at http://www.redfox.co.uk/proguard

Hope this helps.

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by abelnguyen In reply to Windows 98 - Windows NT s ...

Proguard works perfect. And it sloves my problem. Thank you so much for your help.

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