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Windows conflict with AMD Athlon

By soezy ·
New PC specs. ASUS motherboard CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2200Mhz Chipset NVIDIA nForce4, AMD hammer Mem 1024MB PC 3200 DDR SDRAM
There is a system stability issue with blue screen flashes and resetting on bootup.
Do you have any solutions for this problem. It seems to be a Microsoft problem for which a patch may be available but I have not been able to find one.

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by w2ktechman In reply to Windows conflict with AMD ...

I havent heard of that since Win 95/98.
But have you tried the PowerNow patch from M$,

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by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Windows conflict with AMD ...

Have you installed the ASUS M'Board drivers?

Every time that I use an ASUS M'Board I have to install the supplied drivers as the default ones from MS don't work properly.

Col

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by soezy In reply to Windows conflict with AMD ...

Thanks W2ktechman
No, I haven't heard about the PowerNow patch from M$ - please tell me more about it and where I can get it from.

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by soezy In reply to

I investigated the PowerNow patch but assume all that was done on upgrading to SP2. I have AMD8. I did find out that the power supply to the PC was inadequate and therefore increased to 400watt.

What are your thoughts on conflicting ideas that old drivers should be uninstalled before renewal versus overwriting?

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by hazed100 In reply to

Remove all drivers of anything you are about to install even if they automatically uninstall the older versions its not worth the risk of some sort of corruption happening and causing some weird fault that you can never figure out.

if you want to be really ****:

First virus check any downloaded drivers you get off the web or CD/DVDs
uninstall old drivers
restart in safe mode
double check there are no double entries in start/ settings/ control panel/ system/ hardware manager.Usually if the drivers are completely gone you wont even see the hardware in the list or it will be empty.
Restart
cancel any windows automatic hardware instals unless its unavoidable(certain hardware drivers like PCI bridges are initially taken from WindowsXPs own files I think, just cancel any that ask you if you want to go online to look for new ones)
Disable/exit ALL anti virus, Anti-spyware and firewall software you have running in task bar as you wont be going online for a bit(make sure your wireless is off too and or bluetooth IR etc if you have them).
Press cntrl+alt+delete to get the task manager up, go to processes and this is a list of all programs running on your computer.Right click on any you recognise and know to be unecessary, for instance I know I can turn off 'ashupdate' as I know its my AVG7 Antivirus update program.Press end task then yes, to end the programs, dont worry they will all restart again if you restart your comp or manually start them from their exe files.
You should leave explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe alone and also these days theres lsass.exe, Spoolsv.exe, winlogon.exe, csrss.exe, smss.exe, services.exe and svchost.exe and a load of other obscure microsoft programs(!!) running these days. Critical programs like 'system' and 'system idle process' etc wont let you stop them either but some like lsass.exe and svchost.exe do and you are better off not stopping them or you will need to restart again. Just get rid of anything that looks like an updater or schedule program or MSN messenger (msm.exe), google updater or your printer drivers?
End program and confirm them
then install your newdrivers
restart when prompted
defrag hardrive as any instalation can get pretty fragmented as it tries to fill gaps or if other processes are running and using the drive and split the instal up (try not to have any unecessary background programs ever really they use up your system resources like the memory you need to display all those textures and lighting and run windows)

you should have a lovely clean install of windows if you always defrag before and after installing programs however it starts to take longer the more you keep on the drive so you might decide to do less defraging and taking a chance it will be ok (lets face it, its mostly ok so beingthis cautious is only for those who are terrified of losing their data.

Hope this helps <S> :)

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by hazed100 In reply to

Remove all drivers of anything you are about to install even if they automatically uninstall the older versions its not worth the risk of some sort of corruption happening and causing some weird fault that you can never figure out.

if you want to be really ****:

-First virus check any downloaded drivers you get off the web or CD/DVDs
-uninstall old drivers
-restart in safe mode
-double check there are no double entries in start/ settings/ control panel/ system/ hardware manager.Usually if the drivers are completely gone you wont even see the hardware in the list or it will be empty.
-Restart
-cancel any windows automatic hardware instals unless its unavoidable(certain hardware drivers like PCI bridges are initially taken from WindowsXPs own files I think, just cancel any that ask you if you want to go online to look for new ones)
-Disable/exit ALL anti virus, Anti-spyware and firewall software you have running in task bar as you wont be going online for a bit(make sure your wireless is off too and or bluetooth IR etc if you have them).
-Press cntrl+alt+delete to get the task manager up, go to processes and this is a list of all programs running on your computer.Right click on any you recognise and know to be unecessary, for instance I know I can turn off 'ashupdate' as I know its my AVG7 Antivirus update program.Press end task then yes, to end the programs, dont worry they will all restart again if you restart your comp or manually start them from their exe files.
You should leave explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe alone and also these days theres lsass.exe, Spoolsv.exe, winlogon.exe, csrss.exe, smss.exe, services.exe and svchost.exe and a load of other obscure microsoft programs(!!) running these days. Critical programs like 'system' and 'system idle process' etc wont let you stop them either but some like lsass.exe and svchost.exe do and you are better off not stopping them or you will need to restart again. Just get rid of anything that looks like an updater or schedule program or MSN messenger (msm.exe), google updater or your printer drivers?
-End program and confirm them
-then install your newdrivers
-restart when prompted
-defrag hardrive as any instalation can get pretty fragmented as it tries to fill gaps or if other processes are running and using the drive and split the instal up (try not to have any unecessary background programs ever really they use up your system resources like the memory you need to display all those textures and lighting and run windows)-you should have a lovely clean install of windows if you always defrag before and after installing programs however it starts to take longer the more you keep on the drive so you might decide to do less defraging and taking a chance it will be ok (lets face it, its mostly ok so being this cautious is only for those who are terrified of losing their data.

Hope this helps <S> :)

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by dbott In reply to Windows conflict with AMD ...

I have an old PC: EPOX 8KRA2+ AMD Athlon XP XFX Nvidia AGP, 2GB Mushkin 184 pin DDR RAM. Microsoft XP Pro (SP2+).

I too have system stability issue, but not on bootup. Mine's apparently random. I've been working through the issues with Microsoft Tech Support through process of elimination. Currently I've swapped to an older ATI Radeon card to test the Nvidia chip conflict possiblity. I'll follow up when I know something more.

I'm also wondering if there isn't something with Norton Antivirus...it's the closest thing to finding something always present when the blue screen occurs.

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