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    Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

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    by nappyjim ·

    Can anyone enlighten me as to why Windows Defrag only got fragmentation down from 67% to 66%? Will running it multiple times bring it down more?

    Heres is the log that was generated:

    Windows Disk Defragmenter
    Copyright (c) 2003 Microsoft Corp. and Executive Software International, Inc.

    Analysis Report

    Volume size = 127 GB
    Cluster size = 4 KB
    Used space = 67.46 GB
    Free space = 59.97 GB
    Percent free space = 47 %

    Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 33 %
    File fragmentation = 67 %
    Free space fragmentation = 0 %

    File fragmentation
    Total files = 61,450
    Average file size = 1 MB
    Total fragmented files = 332
    Total excess fragments = 26,226
    Average fragments per file = 1.42

    Pagefile fragmentation
    Pagefile size = 3.00 GB
    Total fragments = 16

    Folder fragmentation
    Total folders = 3,511
    Fragmented folders = 2
    Excess folder fragments = 5

    Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
    Total MFT size = 137 MB
    MFT record count = 66,907
    Percent MFT in use = 47
    Total MFT fragments = 3

    Defragmentation Report

    Volume size = 127 GB
    Cluster size = 4 KB
    Used space = 65.57 GB
    Free space = 61.86 GB
    Percent free space = 48 %

    Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 33 %
    File fragmentation = 66 %
    Free space fragmentation = 0 %

    File fragmentation
    Total files = 61,450
    Average file size = 1 MB
    Total fragmented files = 8
    Total excess fragments = 3,831
    Average fragments per file = 1.06

    Pagefile fragmentation
    Pagefile size = 3.00 GB
    Total fragments = 16

    Folder fragmentation
    Total folders = 3,511
    Fragmented folders = 1
    Excess folder fragments = 0

    Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
    Total MFT size = 137 MB
    MFT record count = 66,907
    Percent MFT in use = 47
    Total MFT fragments = 3

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    • #2922671

      Clarifications

      by nappyjim ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      Clarifications

    • #2922664

      Try [i]Defraggler[i]

      by nepenthe0 ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      As you know, the [i]default[/i] Windows defragmenter is a basic version of [i]Diskeeper[/i]. I have purchased a couple of [i]Diskeeper[/i] versions, and the fully capable software seems to do better than the Windows [i]default[/i] defragmenter.

      That said, I now use the free program called [i]Defraggler[/i] which is [b]much[/b] faster than Diskeeper:

      http://www.defraggler.com/

      I predict that once you try out [i]Defraggler[/i], you’ll never run Diskeeper again.

      • #2922651

        Defraggler is a toy – that’s why it looks fast.

        by older mycroft ·

        In reply to Try [i]Defraggler[i]

        Defraggler allows you to CHOOSE which files you want to defragment.

        I ask you, how in hell can YOU tell what should be defragmented that’s going to be in the best interests of the system?

        XP contains thousands of files yet I’m supposed to believe that I know which ones to defragment?

        I’ll stick with PerfectDisk. I set it for 3% in Stealth Mode and it’s a Fire & Forget system.

    • #2922661

      Pagefile fragmentation :)

      by rob miners ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      You will either have to clear the Pagefile on Shutdown which will slow down the shutdown process or Defragment the Pagefile.

      Clearing it on Shutdown will avoid this problem from happening again.

      By default, Windows XP Professional does not clear the virtual memory pagefile when the system is shut down. In some organizations this is considered a breach of security because the data in the pagefile might be accessible to users who are not authorized to view that information. To enable this feature and clear the pagefile each time the system is shut down, start the Group Policy snap-in, expand Local Policies, and then select Security Options. Right-click Shutdown: Clear Virtual Memory Pagefile and then click Properties. By default, it is disabled. To force Windows XP Professional to clear the pagefile when the system is shut down, select Enabled.

      Use this setting and restart the PC.

      Click on Start, Run and type in cmd and press Enter.

      At the command prompt type in chkdsk c:/r and press Enter.
      It will ask to do it on the next restart. OK that and restart the PC. If it finds any problems it should correct them.

      Try defragmenting again.

      There is a Pagefile Defragmenter here:

      http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx

      You will need to run chkdsk c:/r whichever way you go.
      < add a bit. >

    • #2922660

      Depends what is sitting on your hard drive …

      by older mycroft ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      Windows defrag routine relies on an algorithm that sums up what is required against what improvement will be gained.

      If the defrag routine reckons that any further defragmentation will not show any noticeable improvement in the running of your SYSTEM then it will stop. It also depends what types of files are fragmented: if you happen to download torrents you may have unfinished downloads that should not be moved until they are fully combined into contiguous functional files.

      Either you have not run a defragmentation procedure for quite some coniderable time or the structure of your files is stopping the procedure from continuing.

      Plus, IMHO the Windows Defrag program is about as basic as they come. Most of the time it is only interested in defragging your free space which in this case, it appears to have done, increasing it by 1%.

    • #2922640

      I use Diskeeper

      by captbilly1eye ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      …and have for many years. The Windows Defragmenter in XP was actually modeled after an old version of Diskeeper.

      The latest version makes it ‘set-it-and-forget-it easy, runs in the background taking up little system resources and is much more thorough than Windows built-in version. Be aware, however, that when installed, it replaces the Windows version.

      It also allows you to easily perform a boot defrag and adjust MFT size.

      http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp

      unfortunately, it’s not free, but then again most things worth while rarely are.
      They do have a free trial version available, tho.

      Everyone has their preferences and to what extent defragging actually improves performance will always be under debate. But here’s a good article and review of the top Defraggers:
      http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1811993,00.asp

    • #2913375

      system files

      by vindasel ·

      In reply to Windows Defrag only reduced fragmentation from 67% to 66%

      It’s not able to defrag much because your system files (MFT and page file) are fragmented, and also the overall level of fragmentation of files is quite high. The default windows defragger cannot handle conditions of heavy fragmentation, and cannot defrag system files either.

      To avoid the build up of fragmentation, it’s best to go with an automatic defragmenter. It will run in the background, and defrag quietly as necessary without disturbing other running programs. Unlike older and resource intensive scheduled defraggers, you need not waste time waiting for the defrag to end. The best auto defraggers also defrag most of the MFT ‘online’ (no need for a boot-time defrag) and can easily handle heavy fragmentation even under low space conditions.

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