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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

By mike_j_sherlock ·
I'll try to keep this short.

Basically I'm developing on a PC system Running XP.

The system has no keyboard so that users can't start playing around.

Problem is, i have a Magnetic Card Reader (MCR) which plugs into the PS/2 Keyboard port (No Drivers Needed).
Because there is no keyboard present on boot up, only the MCR present, XP refuses to load the Keyboard driver rendering the MCR useless.

Go into DEVICE MANAGER with no keyboard attached to see a demo....

The MCR sends its signals as keystrokes through the PS/2 port. As theres no Keyboard to emulate, the strokes go nowhere.

Kind of useless.

All i need is to tell XP that there's a keyboard present when there isn't one plugged in.

Even Microsoft are having troublesolving this one.

Kind of throwing it out as a challenge or incase anyone has had similar problems.

All works fine on Win98 platform. (Because there's a keyboard in DEVICE MANAGER).

Really need this on an XP install though, so Catch 22....
ps
I am serious about the points on this one...
More explanation available on request.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by DKlippert In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Stab in the dark. Is USB an alternative?

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by mike_j_sherlock In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Thanks, but the MSR is PS/2. no other option.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by TheChas In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Admittedly, this is a work-around.

Use a PS2 Keyboard splitter.
Buy, or grab a cheap keyboard.
Take the keyboard apart, remove the small circuit card and mount it into a box.

XP will find a keyboard, so the driver will be installed.
Users will not have access to a keyboard, as the keys are not there.

You might even be able to set things up on a bracket with a PS2 connector, and keep the device inside the PC.

Chas

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by mike_j_sherlock In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Sorry, already thought of that. But for the number of units we want to put out, this really wouldn't be costeffective. Pluss we don't really want to get into a manufacturing process.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by RCOM In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Chas has a solution that should work. Some Kiosks have a simular setup. The keys are exposed but the control board is inside the unit and there's a switch to turn the keys on. The card swip is connected to that same board. The board is connected to the keys port on the internal Net PC. I assume it works in pretty much the same way as you've mentioned.

There's small lockable covered keyboards. You could get a flexible keyboards and hide it inside the case. There's trays that fit under the monitor that has locking drawer for keys. If you look on the Point of Sales sites you'll find something.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by mike_j_sherlock In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Many thanks but, the point is to not have a keyboard at-all.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by dustyD In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

Probably will have to use a MSR connected via RS232 (serial) port. That way, no keyboard required.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by mike_j_sherlock In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

The MSR is PS/2. there's no other real alternative.

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by TheChas In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

More Ideas.

1. Could you use a USB to PS/2 adapter to plug your device into?

2. I found a few pre-made devices to simulate a keyboard for a PC.

http://www.cadesigns.co.uk/dk1b.htm

http://www.mctech.com/kbdghost.html

http://catalog.blackbox.com/BlackBox/templates/blackbox/itemgroup273guest.asp?param=455&ig_id=273&title=GHOST+Emulators&related=

Remove any spaces from the pasted links.

A software option may be to add a program to the run list that merges in the required registry keys for XP to believe that a keyboard is installed.

Chas

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Windows XP Too smart for its own good?

by mike_j_sherlock In reply to Windows XP Too smart for ...

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