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Windows XP with no CD

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This is a technical issue and I am curios if there is a solution. I have a HP Pavilion 2GHZ with DVD/CD-RW and a 60 Gig HD. The company has installed the OS in a different partition (for safety). I have read that there is other program tools available on the WinXP CD. There is my dilemma, I don?t have a CD, and none was included with my system. I am now worried that in the future if my HD dies, I?m up a creek without a paddle. Is it possible to make a backup of the installed OS? When I go to myD drive I only find files that are less than 1-5k so the files must be hidden. Any solutions outside of buying a CD?

I?ve tried the HP web sight and made phone calls to support. They were the least to say how. I am writing this from work so I don?t have the serial number for support services. I would think that because I registered the warranty on line and gave them my Email address and password that should have been sufficient. I did send a letter of complaint to the CEO. I don?t know whataction they will take to my question, as it?s early yet. Any solutions would be helpful. Thanks

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Windows XP no CD

by nyflyer In reply to Windows XP with no CD

I had the same problem and contacted tech support. Since I was still in warranty they sent me recovery cd's just in case that happens but if you are out of warranty they will charge you for them

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by djent In reply to Windows XP with no CD

Welcome to the wonderful world of microsoft. All large OEMS like HP are bound by an aggreement with MS to deliver a preinstall and recovery image. If you want a CD that is installable and has unpacked files and directories you will have to buy a retail copy of XP. Feeling screwed about now? See first line.

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Copy of XP

by Dee In reply to

In case you shoudn't get one - last time I've seen a colleague of mine having a zip file downloaded via Kazaa with a complete version. I think it was a corporate version, but it self-extracted the files it contained, then he was able to install it on another HDD.....

Greetings,

Dee

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Image your hard drive

by stevej In reply to Copy of XP

I often use norton ghost to image hard drives at home as well as for use in the field. ghost will write an image to cd and at least you can bring your system up to where it was when you imaged in case of disaster.

Ghost comes with system works pro for around 100 bucks.

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Copy of XP

by Dee In reply to

In case you shoudn't get one - last time I've seen a colleague of mine having a zip file downloaded via Kazaa with a complete version. I think it was a corporate version, but it self-extracted the files it contained, then he was able to install it on another HDD.....

Greetings,

Dee

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Stop with the misinformation

by TomSal In reply to

Actually I deal with Dell and Gateway for work related orders quite frequently and they provide the OS CD (as well they should).

To say that all large OEMS don't do this is simply not true.

I think its dumb myself, when I asked BestBuy why anCo-workers HP didn't have an OS Cd they said the reason was, get this, "Because users were losing the CD too much and if you don't have a CD you can't lose it!"....I nearly died laughing.

But as late as last week Gateway and Dell are still shipping units with the OS on CD.

PS. Personally, I avoid retail PCs like the plague -- if you are skilled in IT and I assume you are if you like websites like this...build your own system. You'll get higher quality for reasonable price, higher performance per dollar and you can get OEM versions of the OS for a song (with the CD..lol).

Unless its free or marked down like 75% or more, I'll never buy a retail box for my personal use at home.

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by djent In reply to Stop with the misinformat ...

I was talking about a retail version of XP, not an image. All OEM restore disks are images per MS OEM aggreements. If Dell or other OEMs are shipping full versions MS would castrate them.

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Sorry but you are wrong

by TomSal In reply to

I've ordered about $100,000 in desktop systems in the past 18 months...trust me on this on (btw, I'm not trying to sound arrogant -- just know what I'm talking about) I know a recovery DISC and I know a full blown OS. All the computers came with thefull blown OS OEM CD of XP on it. The key is OEM, and no recovery cds are NOT the same as an OEM.

If you take a store bought Retail XP cd, and then I compare it with my online bought OEM XP cd -- bit for bit its not missing any code *EXCEPT* I did notice on some OEM versions of software they might have some "cutesy" stuff missing (ie. there was an OEM version of a paint program I had, and it was missing some sample graphics that the retail had) also the OEM comes with no packaging, no manual. That's why its cheaper.

However, OEM is "tied to the hardware its sold with" so to speak.

But that policy is lets just say , "holier" than the pope.

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Well actuall I was told by MS

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Stop with the misinformat ...

That it doesn't matter about which OEM disk you use provided you have the COA with the product key any OEM Windows XP disk will work provided you keep home and pro seperate if you lose or get the disks mixed up all you need to do is grab any CD of the right varity and install it with the key on the COA it will install as the disks are no different. And honestly you could not accidently use a home version on a Pro installation unless you where blind or didn't look at the front of the CD. The same applies to the Corporate Vrsions as well they all use the same CD's with different keys for different companies. So there really shouldn't be a problem with a business losing a indivule CD. And a home is not likely to lose the CD's either as in most instances there is only the one or maybe two computers and most owners keep their CD's in a safe place. So actually this reason doesn't wash it is nothing more than an excuse to justify saving a few dollars in not shipping the Original CD's in the first place and in every instance these machines come with the books and a COA. So should they not supply the books either as they might get lost? The COA is stuck on the chassis of the computer so it shouldn't go astray.

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Not with all OEMs

by dcosgrove In reply to Well actuall I was told b ...

What we're talking about here are OEM restore CDs, an HP restore CD will only work with very specific models and mut have identical hardware and software build numbers which are tatooed in the bios. Even if the original system that the disk came with had the bios altered and lost the tatoo, that restore cd would not function. You are referring to hologramed CDs marked OEM which are virtually identical from one to another, but dont come with systems such as these excepting maybe Gateway, my Dell also has a restore CD. Though you can use a hologramed OEM CD with the OEM COA from an HP, you may be surprised to find out that HP won't provide you any missing drivers. Also realize that XP is relatively new, there are only several build available to comumers and one version including SP1, there are at least 8 different versions of WIN98 install disk and the COA numbers are not interchangable between all versions.

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