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Hi

Need help
When i check the disk space in my computer for C Drive
the same keeps changing everytime i click on referesh, it keeps becoming less at every refresh click.

PLEASE HELP
cannot run system restore C Drive 35.4GB free space starts at 83.5mb and keeps going down.

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by computercookie

free space begins at 83.5 MB?

If that's true you need to free up some space. By default XP will be trying to use 1.5 times the memory as virtual memory i.e. if you have 512 MB of memory then XP will try to reserve 768 MB of your hard drive for virtual memory.

you need to uninstall some programs or delete some files.

by minoo03

As mentioned
C Drive Total Space 35.4GB Free Space 72.1MB
When i wrote the post it was 80+MB free space now it is 72.1MB, please help nothing installed or removed

by 93961

How do you expect to restore a system with so low disk free space. I am shocked to hear that.
Even I am more surprised your system is still running at such low free disk space. Being a person of your field you should be knowing of the same.
Clear up all temporary files including temporary internet files. And also software other than OS should be uninstalled and installed in other drives if you have any. Also you should remove many other files not required. You should be knowing all these things???!!!...

by bhatnagar_nitin9

Use drive cleaner from Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Drive Cleaner.
Run the same on C: drive and delete all the unnecessary files like temporary files etc. Also goto Control Panel->Internet Options. Inside there, you will find one option for deleting all temporary files. Use that. Finally Check for any viruses as well. You may also try using system command...
c:\sfc /SCANNOW.

Hopefully this will resolve problem and if not then use system restore.

by 93961

It is well known that both the cleaning options given in the post does not clean all the temporary files in any MS Windows Operating System. The cleaning has to be done manually by deleting the temporary files which are in various locations, like Users' Profile Local Settings folder, Windows Temp Folder in Windows System Directory, etc. Then finally the Recycle Bin also have to be emptied. Then only free sapce will increase.

by oh smeg

The Swap File is getting bigger and your free space is getting smaller.

You need to clean up the Drive if it isn't already and then set about either fitting another Drive or a Bigger Drive as you shouldn't be running any Windows computer with less than 15% Free Space on the drive. I'm surprised that it's even working with lower than 1% free space but it must have been getting progressively worse for a very long time now.

Col

by thumbsup2

There is at least one virus which fills your hard drive until the system will no longer boot. Have you scanned for viruses lately?

by rob miners

5.31GB of Data to enable the Drive to function properly. I use a rule of thumb @ 17% capacity on Drives. Then you don't have problems like this. ;)

< just to add that this has gone beyond worrying about Temp files. > ;)

Make some room and then try this.
If it appears to be Viral Activity try this otherwise skip to chkdsk.

avast! Virus Cleaner - free virus removal tool: http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-virus-cleaner.html

Spybot - Search & Destroy Update it: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

Download avast! and Spybot and run these two programs in Safe Mode. Turn off System Restore and turn Don't forget to it back on when you are finished.

When you are up and running again.
Click Start and in the Run box type in cmd and press Enter.
type in chkdsk /r and press Enter.
Acknowledge the prompts and restart the PC.

When it has been through the stages and it has restarted.
Click Start and in the Run box type in cmd and press Enter.
type in defrag c: /f

< forgot to save my editing >

Good point OM, I had a son that used to do the same thing. I eventually let it crash on him. ;)
He learn't :) < I didn't I just did it twice. Opened Edit did a copy then went to post a reason for the Edit and couldn't remember how to spell the word. >

Googled it didn't I by copying and pasting. Nuff said. :p

by older mycroft

But by your absence of replies to this thread, I fear you assume the job's been done. IT HAS NOT, not yet anyway.

You still need to lose at least another 2 to 3 gigabytes of data to have sufficient free space, otherwise you'll be back here in a few days when your system crashes again.

Also having regained OVER 3GB by deleting unnecessary files doesn't bode well for the state of your hard drive, contents wise.

Hopefully you'll continue this thread, but I've got my doubts. ;)

by minoo03

Same problem,
by using the ATF Cleaner i got back 3gb space, but once again i have only 426mb free space, i used the unregistered version of spacemonger and checked the space, there is a folder installer in the windows folder which has taken up a total of 23.1gb.

the following are the files/folders in Installer:
1) 28 Folders / 9.84MB
These are {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}
2) 2 Folders / 30.6MB
These are MSN Messenger 8.0.0812 & 8.1.0178 having MsnMsgs.msi packages.
3) 404 *.mst files / 114MB.
4) 42 *.msi files / 63.5MB.
5) 2586 *.msp files / 22.6GB

Also in C:/Windows there are 96 folders/ 532MB having the following: $NtUninstallKBxxxxxx$

Please help, the sys runs fine, no problems. AS YET

by bizzo

You may have a process creating, or adding to log files.

Search your drive for log files and see if there are any one that have current date/time. You may then be able to determine if an unwanted process is running, creating these. Or you may be able to reduce the logging of other processes.

by minoo03

As you said i would be back.
I have the following hidden folder C:\WINDOWS\Installer which has utilized approx 26GB of space on C: Drive almost all the files are windows installer patch for Office 2003.

Please help

by older mycroft

There is definitely something rather odd happening on your hard drive.

I've just checked the 80GB hard drive on my laptop which has about 74GB of working space. Within that drive I currently have over 38GB of free space.

My C:\Windows\Installer directory had 22 folders, 103 files and comes to a total of 83.3MB occupied. I don't run with M$ Office (never have EVER) favouring Open Office 2.3 instead.

Quite why your directory would contain 26GB of data is a mystery to me - my patches come to 5.13MB.

Hopefully another peer, experienced in M$ Office may have more detailed information for you. My personal experience of M$ products begin and end with the operating systems, by choice. Unless you want to include Combat Flight Simulator & Freelancer in the mix. ;)

by rob miners

MsiZap.exe is available from the Installer Cleanup Utility package:

The following file is available for download from the Microsoft Download Center:

Download the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility package now. http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/9/d/e9d80355-7ab4-45b8-80e8-983a48d5e1bd/msicuu2.exe

The installation will install to C:\Program Files\Windows Installer Clean Up\MsiZap.exe you may have to navigate to this directory and the type msizapmsizap.exe G! and press Enter.

Use the msizap tool with the flag g! and it will identify orphan files, then you can delete them.

Msizap.exe uses case-insensitive command line options shown in the following table.

Option Description :

* Removes all Windows Installer folders and registry keys, adjusts shared DLL counts, and stops Windows Installer service. Also removes the In-Progress key and rollback information.

a Only changes ACLs to Admin Full Control for any specified removal.

g For all users, removes any cached Windows Installer data files that have been orphaned.

p Removes the In-Progress key.

s Removes Rollback Information.

t Removes all information for the specified product code. When using this option, enclose the Product Code in curly braces. This option may be used with either the full path to the .msi file or with the product code.

w Removes Windows Installer information for all users. When this option is not set, only the information for the current user is removed. Use of this option requires that the user's profile be loaded so that the user's per-user registry hive be available.

? Verbose help.

! Forces a 'yes' response to any prompt.

Let us know how you get on.

< add the command >

by minoo03

Thanks mate this tool msizap really helped.
it helped recover 25GB space.

Thanks once again

by older mycroft

That's what they're for.

Mark his answer as 'Helpful' then others with the same problem will find the answer more easily. ;)

by var1016

Hello Rob.

I have installed this but Zap won't run - just a momentary flash of a command prompt-type screen.

Any suggestions?

Rgds

Paul

by rob miners

This is not something that would need to be performed very often Paul if at all. What is your need for running this Command.

Open explorer and navigate to C:\Program Files\Windows Installer Clean Up right click on the file MsiZap.exe and select Copy. Left click on Local Disk (C:) and in the right hand pane right click on a blank space and select Paste.

Click Start, Run and type cmd and press Enter.

Type cd\ and press Enter.

You should now be in the Root Directory of c:\>

Type msizap g! and press Enter.

You will now be presented with a screen that will be similar to this.

C:\>msizap g!

MsiZapInfo: Performing operations for user S-1-5-21-602162358-1500820517-7253455

43-1003

Removing orphaned cached files.

No product/patch data was found.

C:\>

by oh smeg

And the Installer Folder is only taking up 941 MEG of space with 110 files & Folders in it.

Col

by rob miners

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by var1016

Sorry I cannot give you a thumbs-up (not my thread of course) thanks a lot.

I am certain that you are correct that this is not likely to be necessary, but I do have a bee in my bonnet about crap-cleaning! It depresses me that there is usually all sorts of rubbish piled up here and there. Looking at the list of stuff that is running does make me wonder what it's all for!

All the best

Paul

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