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WinXP died...

By AnsuGisalas ·
I have an aged WinXP laptop, which yesterday decided not to be able to boot anymore.
I can get it into safe mode, but restore points (while successful) don't solve the problem.
I cannot get it into safe mode with networking.
I managed to do a HDAT run from a USB boot disk, and found a single bad sector. Apparently it hit where it hurts.

Now, I'd run a sfc /scannow , but I get an error, RPC server not running.
And I'd do a windows repair install, but the sorry piece of crap is OEM.

Any suggestions?

Malware is highly unlikely... I've done scans already - So less likelyhood of a thumb for suggestions in that direction , otherwise I'm a big spender in the thumb department. Sounds great, doesn't it? :)

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few things

by brian In reply to WinXP died...

First...GET A NEW HDD - since the drive already has one bad sector, more are soon to come...just a matter of time.

Second...ghost the drive (clone it from the old drive to the new drive)...i perfer norton ghost 2003 to do this with but there are many others out there which will work. After you have successfully cloned the drive, install the new drive into the system. Note however, that this is one of those things that could cause your current drive to crash if the heads are starting to crash. What we are trying to accomplish here is safely repairing your system and getting a backup of the old data, programs...etc on it. Worst case, you will have to install windows fresh on the new hdd and try to pull your data from the old using it externally.

Thrid...just because it is oem doesn't mean you can't do a windows repair. All you need is an XP cd (with the correct service pack layered into it that you had on your system ie if your system had xp sp3 then the cd must have sp3 as well). Boot from the cd, but instead of running a full repair (which is just time consuming and annoying), try booting off the cd, pressing r at the first prompt, which will take you to the dos based repair mode, then running chkdsk -r from there (which is basically what the windows repair install is going to do any ways, but with pretty graphics instead of ugly black and white text).

See what happens...if you would not like to replace the drive at this time, then just do step 3...however the drive may become unstable, assuming the cause of the bad sector is actually resulting from the heads starting to fail.

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Pressing R at the first prompt...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to few things

is that for accessing the recovery console?

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you got it

by brian In reply to Pressing R at the first p ...

yup you got it.

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Right

by AnsuGisalas In reply to you got it

Ok, I can do the recovery console without the CD, so I'll try this out.
That is, I'll try it out, again... it overheated mid-chkdsk on the first go, so I guess I have a good candidate for what the real culprit is.

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uh oh

by brian In reply to Right

yeah, i would be willing to bet at this point what has happened is the system runs hot, the drive runs hot, and the ram runs hot....all crammed into a laptop, it runs really hot and the fan(s) isn't cooling properly. You may want to check into a cooling pad (if you don't have one yet) to try and combat the problem, or even replacing the internal fan and cleaning the vents (with mine i have to prop the bottom up for proper airflow, typical amd laptop from the old days). Chances are your hdd is dying from "heat" more than crashing heads (though eventually it will happen). put it in the fridge and run it!! :-p

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Yeah

by AnsuGisalas In reply to uh oh

I have it propped up on stilts all the time. Sometimes it needs an ice-pack too.
I guess this is one of those times - haven't found a pattern to it though.

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thought

by brian In reply to Yeah

what you can try to do...take the cover off where the fan is located, see if it is spinning properly...if so, try blowing some compressed air through the heatsink area after it has cooled down. there could be a blockage there causing it to overheat.

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That was it exactly

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Yeah

They'd put a nice copper grate in front of the blowing vent (WHY?!? To stop spawning salmon from jumping upstream?!?), and it had grown a nice compact fleece rug... very warm and cozy.
Damage seems to be done though, I guess one or more components has taken permanent cooking damage

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On the positive side

by NexS In reply to Yeah

You could take it to bed and use it as a hot water-bottle.

Hopefully, though, you can replace the dead bits with undead bits... or, hopefully, alive bits.

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This is why I always supply a Cool Pad with all new NB's

by OH Smeg In reply to Yeah

Not only does it prolong the life of the NB it's very easy to see if they are not being used because the internal Airways get clogged with Crud and cook the Internal Components very quickly.

While Modern NB's are fast they are not terribly reliable as they come out of the box and they are not the best possible design when it comes to preventing air borne crud blocking the Hot Bits inside so you need something that is simple easy to use and unnoticeable to have in place to make the NB last.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834999850

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