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By zbatia ·
My resume is 6 pages. In addition, I have a Narrative about myself (3 more pages).
Here is a reality: If you are in the middle of your career, two pages maybe enough. However, if you are looking for high-pay job with a lot of responsibilities, the HR, in most of the cases, has no clue about your skills, so, they send the resume to the departmental manager who will study it thoroughly looking for the clue about your real skills based on the projects you completed. Then, if they like what they saw, the resume is forwarded back to HR to invite you for the interview.
These days, to find a highly qualified pro is not easy. And you have to stand out of the crowd with very particular skills and significant experience.
My first 1.5 pages of resume show the summary of skills, so, I cannot show the completed projects to squeeze the resume in 2 pages format.
As for recruiters, pardon me, these days there are 2% of recruiters who **really** understand your field of expertise. Most of the recruitment is outsourced to foreign countries. The folks out there don't understand the specifics because for them ANY job is heaven. Also, they have no clue about where you do live. They will offer the jobs hundreds miles away from your home or the job that is 2 levels below your skills only because they found a keyword in your resume and and are surprised why you don't want to take that job.
Nobody (!) from them read your resume anyway (and they are not ashamed) but rather scan your resume for particular keywords. For instance, I mentioned in my resume that I used PHP scripting in one of the projects. So, they offer a job as a PHP programmer even if I am in Information Security field and was never working as a programmer.
My advice: it doesn't matter how many pages your resume is. What matter is a good summary of skills and completed projects. Coupled with a stand-out cover letter, it all together makes a difference. Convince your potential employer that you can handle the advertised duties, and the interview is guaranteed.

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by JamesRL In reply to Wrong!

I've been a manager, and someone who hires, for 10 years, and before that spent a lot of time reviewing resumes and interviewing contractors.

The reality is if you are a manager and have 200 resumes on your desk, which I've had, you do not have the time to read 6 page resumes.

If you don't have the writing skills to create a compelling resume that takes 2 pages, hire one.

There will be places that reject long resumes. Do you not want an interview there?

The two pages is to get you the interview. You can go deep in the narrative in the interview itself, but first you have to get noticed through the resume.


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"if you are looking for high-pay job ...

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Wrong!

... they send the resume to the departmental manager who will ..."

... snort, wonder why an applicant thinks a manager with limit time would read your novel, and put it directly in the reject pile without passing 'Go' or collecting $200. If you're lucky he'll notice the first two pages are a summary, but the sheer volume will likely get it rejected out of hand.

If you're in security and don't want a PHP jobs, why do you mention a one-time PHP project at all? That's the kind of unnecessary detail that results in a phone book-sized resume. You're not skilled in it, you don't want to do it, and it doesn't relate to the jobs you're after. It sounds like your trying to use one generic resume to fit all occasions. Instead, tailor it for each position you apply for and leave out the stuff that doesn't fit.

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Wrong, part deux

by GSG In reply to Wrong!

I worked for a corporate head hunter, and the worst thing we could do would be to send a resume out that was more than 2 pages. If we did, as a professional courtesy, we usually got a call telling us that it was thrown away pretty much as soon as the envelope was opened.

The theory was that if you filled more than 2 pages, you were either padding with buzzwords, couldn't communicate in a clear, concise manner, had held so many jobs that you were leaving every year or so, or all of the above.

If you have such a long career that you're going 6 pages, I'd suggest doing a functional resume instead that lists your skillset, not your jobs. Limit yourself to two pages, then have someone read it and circle all of the buzzwords so that you can remove them.

My primary job duty was to read every resume that came in and do the above. We had a standard format, and I re-wrote every single resume. The results speak for themselves... We increased our placements by about 25%.

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No, wrong part trois!

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Wrong, part deux

And yes, always have someone else read it. Watch his or her face and see how often they wince.

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Deux vs. Trois

by GSG In reply to No, wrong part trois!

OK, so I used Deux because I couldn't remember what 3 was, and I was too lazy to google it.

Hey, it's cold, and I had to get out of a nice toasty warm bed this morning to drive an hour to work. I can be lazy now and then!

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The only way that works

by LocoLobo In reply to Wrong!

is if you know somebody who knows someone. Then someone tells his HR to make sure he gets your resume. That seems to be how "higher" level recruiting is done, or what I've seen of it.

As for the jobs I would apply for, I've watched my boss toss the 3 page or more resumes into the reject pile after the first glance.

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if it works for you

by Shellbot In reply to Wrong!

continue on...

but..if I'm hiring, I'm busy, I want to scan the first page for skills..if that passes, then onto the second page to see the last couple jobs you've had..
if there is a couple lines on a 3rd page, i might peek..if it goes on any further it goes in the bin... in all honesty, I've a short attention span.. probably why I contract rather than go for perm jobs.

As a contractor, I've had lots of jobs.. its called "summarizing".. I put my last 3 jobs, and roll the others into "Previous contracts" where I list major companies/ projects and work done.

The details come in the interview..

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