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XP System hates me :-(

By Fireboss ·
I have a Dell 8400 that I've upgraded and modified over the years. It has XP home on C (drive 0), XP Pro on drive E (drive 2) and a data drive D (drive 1). These are all sata drives. I started out today to remove C to put into another machine and let the system boot from E. MY brain and my research let me down as I couldn't find a way to do that. After futilely fighting it I decided to just move the data from D to the NAS and remove it. The data moved fine but the system refuses to boot without drive D in place. It gives me a boot drive not found error no matter how I take it out. I know I'm missing something here and I'll probably buy a drive so I can get the media machine up but I need to know ho to get the rest done or I'll go crazy . . . .Bwaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha...:-P

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Is this a Desktop (tower) or laptop?

by Peconet Tietokoneet In reply to XP System hates me :-(

Well if is one or the other it is usually configured through your BIOS (Boot) settings. You should see the drive(s) in the "Boot" section. Once found (if not found take out and then replace with good Sata cable) make sure that it is the First (top of the list) to boot. When that is done you will need your motherboard driver disk that has the "Sata" drivers on. Now when you load on Windows, look for (down at the bottom of your screen) "Load third party drivers", i think it is "F2" button on your keyboard but you will see this also, press this "F2" button and load on your Motherboard sata drive disk and search for "Raid 32" or "Raid 64" (depending on your version of Windows), click on this and it should load and then Windows should carry on loading once it has copied the code.
Hope this is of help to you.

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HUH?

by Fireboss In reply to Is this a Desktop (tower) ...

I've read this a couple of times and am not sure what you mean. The system is a desktop. The system boots fine as long as all three drives are in place. Remove. either physically or by turning off in the BIOS, any of them - including the data drive - and the system will not boot. The error says there is no boot device present even when both boot drives are in place and only the data drive is gone. The system is not a RAID, merely 3 separate drives so RAID drivers are not an issue here. I simply need to know how to get the system to allow removal of a drive since apparently any drive failure would trash the system completely and that can't be right.

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When you physically removed the drive

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to HUH?

did you reset the master/slave jumpers and/or reset the controlling cabling?

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Sata drive..

by Fireboss In reply to When you physically remov ...

No jumpers

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It does sound strange.

by AnsuGisalas In reply to HUH?

If you have tried with the boot drive back in place, but it still doesn't work then maybe the problem is something really simple?
Have you looked at all of the cables again?
Both the data jacks and the power jacks?
And have you checked that the data jacks are connected in the same way as originally?

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With all three drives in place it boots

by Fireboss In reply to It does sound strange.

Take any one drive out and it will not. So if any drive fails even the data drive the system can't be booted

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You could try a thorough reinstall.

by AnsuGisalas In reply to With all three drives in ...

Format, Fdisk /mbr and reinstall with only one drive on the machine. Make sure the hardware settings are ok too.

I don't see a reason why all three machines would need to be in there, unless OS'es are somehow installed a little bit on all drives.
Anyway, a wipe and reinstall should fix it, so what are you waiting for?

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If I am reading your question correctly

by OH Smeg In reply to XP System hates me :-(

You have 3 HDD one has XP Home another has XP Pro and the last one is a Data Drive. You now want to remove the XP Home drive and fit it to another computer and the computer that it came from is no longer booting.

This is perfectly correct as after you remove the Primary Boot Device which as the Initial Files written to it's Root there are no files left to tell the system where to look for the booting files.

You can not remove the Primary Boot Drive from any System and have it boot again. You need to reinstall Windows to get the Lost files loaded again.

To do this you can try a Repair/In Place Install by following the directions here

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978788

But the reality is that it's generally just easier to perform a new clean install so that there are no hooks in the system that point to the removed HDD.

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Assuming that is correct

by Fireboss In reply to If I am reading your ques ...

which I don't necessarily agree with but that aside for the moment, why does removing the data drive which has no boot record nor any relationship to booting the system cause a failure to boot? Removing it either by physically disconnecting it or by turning it off in the Bios results in a paragraph long message telling me the boot cannot continue.
Currently then failure or removal of ANY of the drives produces a system that will not boot. That just can;t be right. . . :-(

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So you're setting the evidence of it being that way aside.

by Ron K. In reply to Assuming that is correct

How is that going to make it so that it's not that way?

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