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by w2ktechman

I used to have a host of Power problems, and found that adding UPS's to the whole mix worked the best.
If you are shelling out $2-3000 for a system, it should be well protected.

by laltuna

Whatever way you decide to go in building your gaming PC AT ALL COST AVOID "ATI" PRODUCTS. They may be good products but if something goes wrong FORGET ABOUT RECEIVING any concrete and to the point support from ATI. I bought an ALL-IN-WONDER 9600XT the minute it came out on the market. I built my PC. I encountered 4 problems with it. The first 3 problems I had to figure out on my own since all ATI Support did was to sent me very impersonal responses (Cut and paste from their knowledge base) that never resolved my problems. Thanks God and with the help I found on line I was able to fix the problems. The last problem (I've been dealing with this for the last 3 years and is not yet fixed) has to do with the inability to use the card to watch tv on my computer. Every time boot up my PC and turn the TV on all I get is static sound (Not a problem at all with my sound card) ATI told me to remove all drivers and reinstall them. THat fix the problem ONLY until I shut down and reboot when it goes back to the same problem. To date (3 years later) ATI has not found a fix for my problem. They don't know what is like to give a class A tech support as HP or Linksys do. If the answer is NOT in their knowledgebase they are at a lost and your problem will not be fixed. STAY AWAY FROM ATI PRODUCTS. THEIR SUPPORT TEAM REALLY SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS. Don't waste your time and money with ATI is not worth it. ATI should attend seminars at HP and/or Linksys to learn about treating their customers with integrity and to fix their problems rather than passing the buck/
Leon Altuna
laltuna@alabanza.com

by sitizn wille

Don't really want to overclock this system right now, but I have a couple of older pc's that I would like to practice on. Then In a year or two OC the current setup. Mostly just wanting to learn how to OC and know how to do it "right" so keep from having a melt down :-)
Cheers
SW

by terry

We recently put together a gaming rig all air cooled with a SLI setup she runs at about 40c during benchmarking and testing.

When idle she runs at 35c to 37c cooling is provided by four 120mm fans which cut down on the noise CPU cooled by a stock heatsink fan combo.

The video cards 2X 7600GTs setup in a SLI mode run up around 45c to 49c although their stock fans are noisy.

This is all hooked up with an ASUS P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE MB this baby plows through FEAR at 70fps without even breaking a sweat.

For the details and specs on this rig pop in at www.terrtech.com/xcalibur.asp

Cheers.

by frodohobit

Home I have next configuration...
MSI motherboard with bForce4 chipset, AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 2x512MB RAM memory, ATi Radeon X700, HDD 80GB $ 120GB, Chieftec Power Suplay 420W...

I suggest you similar configuration, because AMD give more performance for lover price in relation to Intel, much less heat (temperature of my comp afeter half day of gaming NFS Most Wanted is 35 degrees of Celsius!!! in relatively small case)

My friend In PC Game Club have all AMD configuration, and he is satisfied how AMD work (working hour of Game Club is 10-02)...

I recomend you something like this:
- Large Case
- PSU least 420 - 450W
- Motherboard with nVidia 6x0 chipset for AMD CPU AM2 Socket (with or without SLI)
- least 2x512MB DDRII Ram memory (2x1GB is desirably)
- ATi Radeon 1650 or nVidia 7600 graphic card with 256MB memory (you must choose nVidia if you want Sli configurtion)
- sata HDD 200-300GB
- DVD +/- RW
and others...

by jd255

As I do not play WoW (Counter Strike type here); so what would your "idea" starter machine spec be comprised of?

by now left tr

rubbish. You know it, I know it. He will be playing games from 2002 or before...that or plays everything on recommended, which from him is MIN.

by gsquared

Blizzard reversed that policy several months ago.

I've tried running Blizzard in CrossOver on Linux and got some weird results. Color channels inverted on character graphics but not on environment, no sound, movement issues and framerate issues, inability to save settings, to name the ones I remember.

Haven't tried Cedega or other versions of WINE than CrossOver.

by cayble

Core 2 Duo is by far in any possible way the faster processor then any other current processor in its price range in virtually all circumstances. As things go in the CPU game these days that might change in a few months to a year, but for now and the next while Core 2 Duo is the fastest there is and will be for a while, threaded programs or not.

Read the reviews as they are unanimous on this.

by cayble

Intel COre 2 Duo uses less power and is worlds ahead faster then the top of the line AMD2 CPU's. Thats not speculation, that is test results of every major Tech site on the internet that has done reveiws.

by maeseralf

I have (even here some) test results that say just the oposite. I am in this world not from the last rain of summer, and I tell you that always is possible to devise a kind of test routinethat proves what you want to say. Other thing is real science, where you have to prove every statement you say against any one of the questions that might arise.

by maeseralf

Why don't you cross text 64 bit against 64 bits and double core with dual core? This sounds to me as the statistics I read in papers and shaw on TV. Irelevant as they are confronting grease with speed.
But always is the same, it never minds how many hours you spend on checking, testing and designing a good system, every time a bright spark boy tell you are wrong!

by maeseralf

I wanna see a dual core PC with SATA drives and gigas of memory trying to run a pacemaker. Poor person whom carries it!
This answer is the sort of things you get when debating with kids.

by jethro123

all of the Command and Conquer come with 2 CD's so you can play against someone on your own LAN and have for years...The new DVD for about $30 has ALL of the previous releases on it and you can definitely play it on the LAN.

by cayble

And what you are implying is either all the IT and tech websites are incapable of running accurate independent performance tests on the Core 2 Duo CPU's or perhaps they are, but simply they are all in collusion with Intel and are working in unison to dupe the public on a broad scale.

So if you are saying that real science is not being used in the tests then you are saying a great deal that has no merit as the same nonsense could have been claimed at any time, even when AMD was punching out Intel's lights.

If your test results say different then what every single solitary reliable independent website has said that has compared the Core 2 Duo to similarly priced AMD CPU's then you had best start publishing and get real famous in the process as you will have single handedly uncovered on of the most notorious frauds in the IT world ever propagated.

Or it could simply be you are wildly overstating your case and are dead wrong.

by maeseralf

Gentleman:
Do you know to read? Have you only replied a posting you never read with minding?
First, I said there are studies saying the opposite. Second, I said that test submitted for marketing purposes are so tightly concerned that I simply will never mind them, because they are biased by money; not by understanding. Third, where are the certificates that shows me they are truly independent and reliable?
I note you obviously can't understand written English, because I said that scientific testing is far away from these procedures; while you clearly understood a different thing, that I said there is no science on the tests. I'm in the market since the old times of IBM 3060 and Eclipse or Fourier. I was working with VAX-11 and SellGould minis. I run currently a network with PC (AMD and Intel powered) and Mac G4 and G5. I think I know what I say.
But the understanding is in other minds, as you seem to believe in statistics and polls.
Hear, little turkey, what I said is I don't believe in statements done by marketing firms, as they are clearly biased and paid, as I don't believe a statistic saying every body in country is eating a chicken a day, just because that is the average. First to speak, learn how the world is done and behaves. Don't be one of those naive people believing in "urban legends".

by misslain77

Hi Robert,
Been trying to contact you urgently. Can you add me as contact so I can see your email?

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