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by hal 9000

That no student should be allowed to leave school without knowing just how little that they know.

I've been working what was once known as computers and now is called IT for over 30 years and there is only 1 certainty I know that I know [b]Bugger All![/b]

But what I do find scary is some of the things said by people who should know better things like Boolean is Dead and no longer used in any form. That statement from a M$ Partners Meeting had me laughing for over a week. Unfortunately many believed it.

The simple fact of life is that you keep learning till either Demetre sets in or you Die. With everything that I've forgotten over the years I'm beginning to think that Demetre has already began to set in here though it could just be that I'm trying to do things that are now pointless. :D

Col

by maeseralf

Hi,friends! Of course Boole is dead, almost a century before.
What are they doing then when "Googling"?
The only thing I've realized true in my live is that you only knows about something, when you need to know more on the subject. Be sure, the only thing I don't know yet, is what I don't know yet (lol).
Well, the first statement to build science is perceiving you don't know something. As the ancient Pygmies said: "To know with certitude you must start by the doubt."
And, as I said before, to be an expert only means you know because you have lived. So, you will live so long as you will keep on learning things.

by tachyon

The more I watch and participate in the education system, the more I fear for the future. I can't help but notice that the conspiracy folks are onto something with regards to education.
Students from K-12 are not being taught to think for themselves. They aren't taught concepts and creative thinking. They are taught to memorize, to believe what they are told without questioning it, and they aren't encouraged to self teach and learn outside school.

It's sad and frightening.

by hal 9000

When I was at Uni doing my Post Grad Work or even the Under Grad work they taught you to think in small ever decreasing tunnels and woe betide anyone who thought outside of those Tunnels that where being taught.

By doing this even in the Post Grad Stage it allowed more people through the system at little inconvenience to the system and that was well over 30 years ago now. I can only see them refining the system further as it makes teaching easier. Even doing a Ph.D is easier for those grading the student as they don't have to actually think outside the Square as that would require some effort on the part of the grading Professors.

The entire school system is now shot to hell and isn't worth the paper that it produces as so called trained students. Most are illiterate when they now leave school and if anything it's getting worse.

Col

by absolutely

The belief that those who have the ability to think achieved that ability by conditioning and not by personal virtue is also partly responsible for the same problem. The common approach to "education" is to assume that [b]the entire pedagogical approach can be adjusted to the false belief[/b] that different learning [b]abilities[/b] can be treated as different learning "styles" without compromise to the value of the system. Lazy people will not become industrious via any euphemisms that may ever be invented for the word "lazy". Stupid people will be just as stupid, no matter how politely you choose synonyms for the word "stupid".

by maeseralf

Don't be afraid! It will not empty the wells. Just less than the the F-4, and too much less than MIG-25. They are new tech turbo-fan props.
But you are right with M$. Their flight simulator is just a Visual System. But they have no info about cockpit yet.
Do you remember F-104?

by maeseralf

Hi, Nielsen!
In fact, Expert coms from the Latin "Expertum" (Demonstrated, proved), which is the simple past form of "Experior - Experiri" (Try, prove, test, find out - Experience, Knowledge from living).
So it means "To know from what have been lived". Also is Ex-perior (out of live)

by dawgit

Hi back, Yes I remember them, and F-105's as well. Though 104's were in use in Europe for a long time (In Germany) unfortunatly I was on the the other side of the Earth Ball, most of the life of those. I did get to see a lot of F-4's working out, as well as those A-6's also. Shame that they didn't let me play with them. (In fact they used to get real nervous any time I was around one. -No sense of humour)

by x-marcap

Some windows people have never worked with a real system or were so overwhelmed they think other people would be overwhelmed also.

Do you remember the first time you tried to explain JCL to a newbie? I almost ripped my hair out... Many of these people have no enterprise knowledge, nor would they be successful in that environment...

TJ

by hal 9000

It was written in Basic and scared the living daylights out of me. It almost looked like English. :D

Coming from Pascal, Fortran and Boolean to look at that was a real shock to the system. :^0

Col

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