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Connecting Vista Home Basic to Domain/workgroup Windows Server 2008

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by susanto_skom

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Hi, I have a problem connecting Vista Basic to W2K8. I know that it can not connect using "join domain" feature. I just want to use the file/folder sharing features of W2K8. FYI, before I installed Vista SP1 I could only connect 1 Vista Basic client, but after installing Vista SP1 all clients could connect to the server (read/write). But it didn't last long, after several hours (usually the next morning), when someone wrote the data to the server, suddenly all other clients could not connect to the server (but the server still worked fine when I log in locally). However,by restarting the server, all clients could connect to the server again. This problem almost occurs in the morning. The next step I made was configuring the W2K8 to be a workgroup and created all the user accounts locally (not using the domain/active directory). But..the problem still exists. I have talk to the local Microsoft Representative, they only said that Vista Basic could not connect to the server (the W2K8 will deny the connection from Vista Basic) and I had to buy Vista Business. My question is why it can still connect to W2K8 although finally after several hours suddenly it can't? (I think if it can't, it doesn't have to be that long for W2K8 to deny the connection. Why it should take for several hours? If it's true then this is a great VULNERABILITY to W2K8). It just doesn't make sense. And also FYI, before I changed the server to W2K8, I used NT Server 4.0 (configured as domain)...and it worked fine with all the Vista Basic Clients. Can anyone help me with this? Many thanks.

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by oh smeg

Maybe it's something to do with the way that 2008 was configured when you installed it but Home Basic shouldn't connect to 2008 in any form.

As for getting it to connect to NT4 Server this also shouldn't happen as NT4 Server needs to be running in Mixed Mode to connect to the Vista Business Platform. My first guess would be that you have done something unexpected to Vista that is allowing this to happen and that the Server App is shutting the door after it has loaded and finally stabilized though it is taking a very long time to achieve this.

If anything this shows problems with both platforms and as Vista has such a Stella reputation this isn't unexpected.

As for moving to Vista Business all that is required here is a new Product Key for your current installs of Vista and a reactivation and you will have the Business Version of Vista.

Col

by skom

The fact is I don't have any problem when connecting all Vista Basic to NT4 server (until now).
And what I did to all the clients was just updating them to Vista SP1.
If Vista Basic can't connect at all to W2K8 in any form, it should have done it from the first time and not taking a very long time to deny it (like what it did before applying SP1 to Vista Basic). Is there something with SP1 that "allows" Vita Basic to connect to W2K8?? Or just another "weakness" in W2K8?? Some said it has something to do with new SMB version in W2K8 and Vista but I don't know whether it's true or not.

Rgrds,

Santo

by oh smeg

As I work in the Business Environment neither Vista or 2008 are currently acceptable for general use as they just don't work well enough or have had the bugs ironed out sufficiently yet.

The few test rigs that I have running to test with are all Vista Business or Ultimate and there are currently no 2008 units even under consideration for testing as yet. We prefer to allow others to be the Beta testers and face the problems that come with new M$ products that always arise.

I'm just going on what M$ have said and the small amount of Beta Testing that I have done with 2008 prior to it's release when I had some spare time to play with.

Col

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