CPU TEMP???

Get in touch with SOYO. They are pretty quick to reply to your emails to tech support. They will let you know the acceptable perameters on internal heating. I run a soyo 1200 w/amd t-bird and it provides an extra source of heat in my bedroom all winter...keeps my feet warm! I have three fans in there at warp speed. I never shut down, run 24/7 and no problems. I can't provide you with numbers because I got my set up from the soyo guys...special to my sys. It's there creation they know best. It wouldn't hurt to get AMD's heat number spread in case the soyo boys want to know that. But these puppys can throw some heat!!! Good Luck.

I am running an AMD XP-1800 also with a ThermalTake volcano cooling fan. CPU temp now runs about 105 - 108 degrees F. When I originally purchased this machine I had trouble with overheating and spontaneous reboots. At that time it appeared that the problems started at about 125 degrees F although I saw CPU temps all the way up to 138 F. Manufacturer indicated that this was unacceptable and they replaced my CPU, motherboard, cooling fan and power supply because they could never determine what was causing the problem.

Bottom line is that temps under 110 is best but up to 120 seems to be OK. In my experience anything above 125 is asking for big trouble.

Just a thought.
I have had temp problems in the past where the case temp got to 115-120 deg. Had to install extra fans. Video card was creating a lot of heat along with the CPU. Fewer lock-ups with new fans.

Answerer # 2 is correct about average temperatures; keep temperatues below 120 degrees fahrenheit.

I've seen people cut out fan holes on their cases to add more fans, especially to dual processor machines used in heavy rendering tasks. That works well too (although these computers sound like they are taking off at power up time).

AMD has a tech writeup about CPU temperatures and what the optimum operating temp for an Athlon is. WWW.AMD.com. Go to Technical Resources, then technical documentation. You can download tech docs about temps in PDF format.You can also order the info on CD. They give you a number to call. You can also view info on Overclockers Cafe about CPU temps, cooling fans, Heatsinks etc. Good source of info.
Temp issues has always been a problem with Athlon processors (XP included). 20 to 23 degrees C seems to be a norm that everyone reports their processors run at or below. Most gamers setup their rigs with copper shims, Artic silver 3 thermal paste, a very LARGE copper heatsink, 60mm to 80mm adapter and use a 80mm fan pushing upwards of 50 cfm. Others use the screaming 60 mm fans running at 6500 rpm and push about 40 cfm. Small cases build up heat. Try getting a Chieftec case (same as a Antec XS1030). Lots of room. Intake and exhaust fans help considerably as well as just leaving off the side cover. Some gamers have gone to water cooled processors (yes they setup a tank and everything). My rig (Athlon XP1800) runs about 110 degree F with a 80 MM CPU fan, two exhaust fans and one intake fan. Case temp gets to about 90 degrees F with the cover on (Antec SX1030 server case).

Ok, here's the deal, I cannot tell whether my problem is CPU or video card heat related. Looking at the temperatures of my computer via the SmartGaurdian software that comes with my mobo, it says CPU - 110F CASE-81F...i have 1 internet explorer window open, Trillian, zone alarm pro, win 2k pro as OS. Nothing major, if I go to play America's Army, Soldier of Fortune II, or any gaphically/processor intensive application, the entire system locks up or shuts down...every now and then, it will bring up a BSOD (blue screen of death) with a nv4_mini.sys error.

I need to get this fixed...it is heat related somewhere because I live in a dorm at a university, they just turned off the ac and turned on the heat (so now I can't freeze my room inorder to run the PC reliably).

Points are not a matter, anyone willing to help me will definetly be rewarded.

I checked out your case at the site, I have one question what power supply do you have installed?

With your system specs & the fact you have 6 case fans plus the CPU, I'd look at your power supply first, If you have the Enermax 431W power supply you should be ok but your pushing it voltage wise just the same & upgrading to a better power supply might solve your BSOD problems, Enermax are good but only handle 65 to 75 percent of what their rated for, here's a couple makes to look at

AntecVerax
Herolchi
Fortron FSP

Even though you may have a volcano 7+ heatsink, you should check to ensure that you have it properly installed in order to optimise it's performance.

Yes, even if this means, that you have to remove the heatsink and start right over from scratch.

When you applied the TIM(Thermal interface material) did you apply it correctly to both the Heatsink and the processor, did you smooth out the paste correctly such that no gaps were present as this will cause bad heat conduction.

If you are not sure then do this again...and do it with 'arctic silver III' thermal paste...top of the range stuff.

Secondly if you feel you have done this correctly, how many case fans are you running? for an XP 2200+ i recommend you have at least one front (intake fan) and one rear (exhaust fan)...if you can afford it 2 front and 2 back...

make sure the front is blowing in and the back sucking out, else air circulation will be in conflict and can raise your temperatures. When buying your case fans Irecommend '80mm Sunon fans' they aren't flash but affordable and effective.

If you can carry out the above instructions...then you should see a significant decrease in your temperatures, and lower temperatures mean less crashes.

Finally, what type of PSU are you using, with a u'r hardware i recommend at least an antec true 380 watt power supply, the dual outake fans will also help decrease your temps.

keep us informed...

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so you know Gforce cards make lots of heat, if i were you and if you have an extra cd or floppy drive bay get a bay fan there cheep and work great if you got the money get a CO2 cooling system

everyone seemed to cover all the details and solutions to the problem. I like to point out that some customers of mine experienced heat problem because the cheap thermal paste would deteriorate with time and become less effective. cleaned up and applied quality paste brought the temp down considerably and stopped the m/c from rebooting when cpu becomes too hot.

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Someone stated earlier in an answer that cutting a hole in your case and adding extra fans may help. In my experience, depending on your case also, most cases are designed for fans at certain places to propell air in steady direction usually down or up or whatever needed to get the hot air out of the case. Simply cutting holes in your case and adding fans does not necissarily mean you will get better airflow. If you put a fan in the wrong spot you may just make all of the hot air blow aroundand around in your case. Of course it will get out sooner or later or cool down, but the purpose is the get the hot air out as FAST as possible. Be careful about putting in extra fans and where you place them is the bottom line.

Your problem does seem to be heat related from what you said, and I'm not about to discount that;
but there have been numerous replies about fixing it should it be heat thats causing the trouble, so I'll try a different thread.

I noticed that you mentioned you were getting a BSOD with errors pertaining to a nv4_mini.sys error. That particular file is a Nvidia Graphics driver. Trying going to Nvidia's website and getting the latest driver in case your current one has become corrupted or whatnot.

Best Wishes,

- SwampRat

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