INFORMATION AS A FOUNDATION

Either that, or they were both half-asleep when they hit their keyboards.

I've already admonished Neil for not taking care to be more fully awake before he starts posting.

Or, perhaps He was simply too damned lazy to properly dispose of it.

Surely [i]that[/i] trait must have been a function deliberately "designed" for you.

I think not.

I once had an old 1250 with worm drive; that was a beast and a half.

Good!

:D :D

The information is all out there. For as long as you continue to play the seagull - fly in and crap all over everything and fly out - you won't win any converts.

The science of gene expression is still in its infancy but you, of course, want to throw the whole lot away and replace it with your mystical god-bothering crap. Where do YOU think the information comes from? A parallel universe - one of three?

To help you, here's a pointer to where it starts! Now do some work of your own.

The Genome project will map the genes but beyond that, researchers are just starting to get stuck into "expression" to result in an individual with unique traits.

Before a cell can begin to divide or differentiate - change, for instance from an undifferentiated stem cell to to a specific functional cell - the genetic information within the cell's DNA must be copied, or "transcribed," onto complementary strands of RNA. RNA polymerase II is the main enzyme that the cell uses to unwind the DNA double helix, synthesize RNA, and proofread the result. As an RNA polymerase II molecule slides along a DNA molecule, it "unzips" the DNA double helix and synthesizes a complementary strand of RNA. This RNA carries the genetic information to where it is needed for protein synthesis. At the same time, RNA polymerase II verifies that no mistakes have occurred. This process is regulated by transcription factors - separate molecules that bind to RNA polymerase II and determine which genes are expressed, at what stage of development, and in which tissue.

Research is in its infancy but details of the structure of RNA polymerase II, including information about its binding sites and how they interact with transcription factors, will provide valuable insight into the detailed mechanisms underlying the flow of genetic information from DNA to RNA to protein.

Follow the research on this enzyme (aka pol II).

The whole process is hugely complicated but, at least to scientists, not so complicated that we can't work our the how and the why. It will just take time.

Neil

You know like Independence Day, but backwards...and in a forum...and not so much like Independence Day, but more like just an alien mind virus posting to a website...

www.drdino.com or his crazy cousin www.timecube.com

"If not, you are truely stupid."

If you do not spell-check your work before posting outrageous claims about 4-day days, peppered with insults of your readers' intelligence..."you are truely stupid."

:D

Drugs ARE bad!

:D

It shows absolutely no sign of intelligence.

Oops, I forgot (when)ami.

Ae you suggsting the tugging asnd pulling forces guide and steer the DNA operationally?

You are a genius! 1000's of scientist coud not come up with that but here n techrepublic's forum we got all te answers if not insults!

First, for evolution to have been a physical behavior of this universe it would need to be a physical law or a generalization based on consistent experience and results. That evidence is not known to be available and we do not observe verticle evolution (trans-species) in practice today. If it were we would observe hundreds of species at various points in the evolutionary chain.

Some argue that DNA holds the history of mankind as a result of mutations over time. They believe that this history is in the junk DNA. There is research looking at this. Since it is an empicial fact that all life is one, will we find the DNA history for dinosaurs in our junk DNA today?

The question that needs to be asked: Has DNA been consistent over long periods of time or has it drastically changed?

Assuming the DNA has been relatively consistent over time, for one species to form from another species using the same genome would require changes in the TIMING, DURATION, AND SEQUENCING of genes firing. In this case I would conjecture that the Genome may hold the pattern for life, but life is the outcome of something grander, that some junk DNA may be an outcome of biological mistakes in the replication process that get magnified.

If DNA drastically changed over time then did life too? There does not appear to be any fossil records of other life albeit there were other species that came and went. ie dinosaurs.

Some argue that bacteria is more evolved than humans but that may only be our goggles that we dawn.

250 EX GP racer it was built by the factory in 59 for the 60 season but never raced, the factory eventually sold all 5 of them to Vic Camp in England how it ended up here is way beyond me and I only got it for the Tacho as it was a box of bits when I first saw it.

Of course the wife was on my back so I told her I would restore it and she could ride it around, well that lasted until I split the crank case and saw just what was inside it. :D But I did keep to my word and built it up as a road bike and told her if she could pull in the clutch she could ride it, the fact that you required a 10 ton porter power to do it was beside the point.

God that had a heavy clutch and generally required both hands to pull it in except when something broke at racing speeds then for some strange reason I never had a problem hauling the clutch in and holding it there.

But I spent several years working as technical director for a race team which was running 1982 900 SS Darmah's and we had brought 4 of the things with the idea of having a 3 bike team and one spare bike available always. Well 23 of these things where brought into AU that year and we got to chose which ones we wanted straight from the boxes and when they where opened and assembled they where of course all different, so much for Ducati's production line they just added whatever they had handy at the time for these special edition bikes. So we had to keep one as a "Control" bike and make all the others identical to it ranging from front forks to muffler height and width. I of course refused to allow any of the racers to actually ride the control bike as I didn't trust them as far as I could throw them, they all showed as much mechanical sympathy to the equipment as Hitler did to the Jews and on most occasions made Hitler look positively a nice guy. But when this class finally stooped running I took the control bike with me as part payment for my outstanding money owed to me. I think at the time that I took it away it had about 3,000 KMS on the odometer and I had put those there all on the race track in nice controlled conditions and other than occasionally robbing some parts off it when one of the bikes was crashed it's still the same as the day I pulled it out of the crate. Now it has 17,000 on it and up until a Social Disease ran me down in an attempt to protect children from me as I must have been on my way to abuse a few it had never been along the road. Granted one day it was moved around and the guy put it on the side stand and allowed it to sink into the grass and fall onto a retaining wall but other than a very small dent in the tank and the paint work there was no real damage, but for some unexplained reason he never touched the Ducati again. ;) I think he is now about 12 inches taller after doing that one. :)

But it is a real pig to ride minimum revs is 3,000 and that in first = about 72 KPH where the speed limit here is 60 KPH and even down to 50 KPH in the back streets. The open road speed limit is 100 KPH and that is either a little over minimum revs in second or a little below minimum revs in third the fact that there are another 5,000 RPM's to play with don't count. :D

Not being one to willingly speed I've never had it in top gear on the open road and I've "Absolutely" never considered taking the Tacho up near the 8,000 RPM beginning of the Red Line well that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

I could lower the final gearing but that would take all the fun out of riding it around and even at 8,000 RPM you can piratically count the power strokes the fact that you get about 2 foot of flames out each exhaust pipe on the overrun has absolutely nothing to do with a badly maintained exhaust system but I do believe that the 220 degrees of valve overlap just may play a small part in that one.

It makes a lovely noise at 8K with all those lovely gears whirring around and not a single chain anywhere to be heard inside the motor, the sound of air rushing into the air intakes through the pigeon guards and those nice quite straight through Megaphones that pass as mufflers give off a quite distinctive note that just sounds so nice. or so I'm told as I've never heard it any place other than on the riders seat and no one is allowed to touch it now. :D

Of course if I'm taking it for a real ride I disconnect the speedio cable to prevent breaking the speedio as you can wind the needle against the zero stop and then pop it off the spindle which works out a bit expensive. But I've also been known to give it a tune up and then take it for a short ride and end up several hundred K's away without any money on me. Once you start riding it you just can not stop. :D :D :D :D :D

Col ]:)

The first religions were obviously invented to explain forces and phenomena that were beyond human comprehension with the knowledge available at that time. The sun is carried across the sky by chariots, that sort of thing. That is why so many early deities were celestial bodies or constellations. Severe weather events were also more powerful than man, thus deities such as Thor. Now, however, sufficient knowledge exists to explain these things without resorting to imaginary, invisible sentient beings. We know the electrical basics of thunderstorms, so Thor is just a legend without a purpose. The claim that God is omniscient is as laughable as the word "nanobot", since the average literate adult is more intelligent than the God that let Satan play with his most beloved creations. For God to be omnipotent when he cannot even dissuade me from my heresy and blasphemy is equally preposterous. These traits--omniscience & omnipotence--were originally ascribed to deity because of human lack of knowledge and power, lacks that diminish with the advance of human knowledge.

Judeo-Christian myth is very intricate and well-documented, and thus very resilient to knowledge, but it is being eliminated by knowledge and intelligence just the same. We can see in this thread how the "unexplainable" realm, to which deity has always been limited, is shrinking to the sub-microscopic, and to the tiniest fraction of a second of the real beginning of the real universe, the Big Bang. In order to be consistent with demonstrable fact, deist speculation is observably constrained to be ever more absurd, a very satisfying trend to a proud member of homo *sapiens*.

Good riddance, God, you are no longer needed here!

I'll call him "Dr_Why_Do_I_Even_Bother?"

there should'nt be a problem.

Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum(b)?

Whichever, he's surely passed through the Looking Glass, for this has all gotten very Carolesque.

Have to send my "White Mice" over to pay him a visit to teach him the error of his ways wouldn't I? :p

Col ]:)

And, with The Queen's Blessing.

Don't we already have more than enough of that from the Fundmentalists?

should we call it a Rabid Hole?

btw, Lewis Carroll, not Carol, that's a girl's name.

With current SuperString theory, electrons and quarks (the essence of all things to science) are just strings of vibrating energy, each vibrating at it's own frequency, or playing it's own note like in music, and the combination of these strings produces an orchestra playing a symphony, and this symphony is the rock, and that one is the tree, and this one is you.

The stuff that is there, the vibrating strings of energy, are waves. Like all energy waves, they consist of crests and troughs. An "on" state and an "off" state. Untold millions of times per second the energy vibration is on, then it's off, on, off....it's there,
it's not there, something, nothing, we exist, we don't exist, we exist, etc.

In fact as we make our microscopes more and more powerful, we will find smaller and smaller stuff within the Super Strings. Because it is said, that the universe, when being examined in this way, must make itself smaller and smaller, in order to hide from itself. The universe cannot look at itself. Just as you cannot see the back of your own head, or see your own eyes. This was theorized by a respected western mathematician, G. Spencer-Brown.

***Everything and nothing are all interconnected, inseparable, a made whole.***

***All humans are connected as one being and we are actually the same being, just different aspects of the same being. ****

The modern physicist H.P. Stapp wrote:
"An elementary particle is not an independently existing, unanalyzable entity.
It is, in essence, a set of relationships that reach outward to other things."

Nagarjuna, a second century Buddhist philosopher understood it already:
"Things derive their being and nature by mutual dependence and are nothing in themselves."

Brings to mind the incident involving Jimmy Carter, on a boat, fishing, & the claim that a rabid rabbit swim up to the boat and bit him!

With that, Tom Paxton, a master at writing topical songs, had all the makings of an instant hit.

Intelligent Design...

The cosmos was built with music, arithmetic, geometry, harmony, system, and balance. The building blocks were all of the same material - the life essence.

The universe... including humans is made up of "vibrations" and "light".

The earth, the sun, the moon, the darkness, the light, the planets, and all forms of life ? plants, rocks, animals, and people ? are interconnected; they come from the same source of light. Everything is united by a transparent net, or web, and each thread shines with great radiance. Everything pulses with the same luminosity ? a magnificent light of unparalleled brilliance.

In metaphysical terms, light is eternal and omnipresent, and while it diminishes in inverse proportion to the square of the distance, it sooner or later fills the entire universe. Light is the vehicle of divinity.

Of the infinate number of frequencies the only separation is of all matter is the "void"

I can tell you this now; the void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is absolute consciousness; much more than even universal intelligence.

Where is the void? I know. The void is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.

The Big Bang was a "vibration" one of many Big Bangs.

The Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously.

It was the power of God that changed the length of its wave and the rate of its vibration which created the patterns for multitudes of forms. This action resulted in the law of diversity which supplied endless patterns. God played on this law of diversity as a pianist plays on a piano - producing melodies and arranging them in a symphony.

Each design carried within it the plan for its evolution. This plan corresponds to the sound of a note struck on a piano. The sounds of several notes unite to make a chord; chords in turn become phrases; phrases become melodies; melodies intermingle and move back and forth, across and between and around each other, to make a symphony. Then in the end, the music will stop and the physical universe will be no more; but between the beginning and the finish of the music there was glorious beauty and a glorious experience. The spiritual universe will continue.

Everything assumed its design in various forms and their activity resulted in the law of attraction and repulsion. All forms would attract and repel each other in their evolutionary dance.

The nucleus of the soul was the balance of positive and negative forces that are equal in power. These forces produce harmonious activities: the positive initiating, impregnating, and thrusting forward; the negative receiving, nourishing, and ejecting. The steps of this evolutionary process are also the stages of the thought process: perception, reflection, and opinion.

To enter into another level of creation and become part of it, the soul had to assume a new, or third consciousness - a physical form. Assuming a physical form is a way of experiencing that level of creation by means of a conscious mind (i.e., the third consciousness). Through the conscious mind, an individual can experience physical consciousness: the physical body, the five senses, the glandular and nervous systems. This transformation of consciousness does not apply everywhere at this level of creation. In other worlds and solar systems, the transformation may differ. One can only imagine the number of these other worlds and the aspects of divine mind which they represent.

Intelligent Design...

The cosmos was built with music, arithmetic, geometry, harmony, system, and balance. The building blocks were all of the same material - the life essence.

The universe... including humans is made up of "vibrations" and "light".

The earth, the sun, the moon, the darkness, the light, the planets, and all forms of life ? plants, rocks, animals, and people ? are interconnected; they come from the same source of light. Everything is united by a transparent net, or web, and each thread shines with great radiance. Everything pulses with the same luminosity ? a magnificent light of unparalleled brilliance.

In metaphysical terms, light is eternal and omnipresent, and while it diminishes in inverse proportion to the square of the distance, it sooner or later fills the entire universe. Light is the vehicle of divinity.

Of the infinate number of frequencies the only separation is of all matter is the "void"

I can tell you this now; the void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is absolute consciousness; much more than even universal intelligence.

Where is the void? I know. The void is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.

The Big Bang was a "vibration" one of many Big Bangs.

The Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously.

It was the power of God that changed the length of its wave and the rate of its vibration which created the patterns for multitudes of forms. This action resulted in the law of diversity which supplied endless patterns. God played on this law of diversity as a pianist plays on a piano - producing melodies and arranging them in a symphony.

Each design carried within it the plan for its evolution. This plan corresponds to the sound of a note struck on a piano. The sounds of several notes unite to make a chord; chords in turn become phrases; phrases become melodies; melodies intermingle and move back and forth, across and between and around each other, to make a symphony. Then in the end, the music will stop and the physical universe will be no more; but between the beginning and the finish of the music there was glorious beauty and a glorious experience. The spiritual universe will continue.

Everything assumed its design in various forms and their activity resulted in the law of attraction and repulsion. All forms would attract and repel each other in their evolutionary dance.

The nucleus of the soul was the balance of positive and negative forces that are equal in power. These forces produce harmonious activities: the positive initiating, impregnating, and thrusting forward; the negative receiving, nourishing, and ejecting. The steps of this evolutionary process are also the stages of the thought process: perception, reflection, and opinion.

To enter into another level of creation and become part of it, the soul had to assume a new, or third consciousness - a physical form. Assuming a physical form is a way of experiencing that level of creation by means of a conscious mind (i.e., the third consciousness). Through the conscious mind, an individual can experience physical consciousness: the physical body, the five senses, the glandular and nervous systems. This transformation of consciousness does not apply everywhere at this level of creation. In other worlds and solar systems, the transformation may differ. One can only imagine the number of these other worlds and the aspects of divine mind which they represent.

Interestingly, both science and religion recognize this law. In science it is often stated, "For every action there is an equal and opposing reaction." Its religious counterparts are, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"; "As you sow, so shall you reap"; and "As you do unto others, it will be done unto you." Even today's common knowledge expresses this principle in the saying, "What goes around, comes around."

Consciousness and free will were the greatest qualities given any creation, but they came with equally great responsibility for their use or misuse.

Therefore, each of these new free-willed beings would simply have to learn to take charge of themselves and to subdue harmful desires in order to live in harmony with the other companions and the Creator. To do otherwise would only bring chaos, suffering, and separation.

One aspect of consciousness is how we process information. Most people think that our memories are stored in the brain, much like a hard drive in a computer with 100% available recall. Many cannot understand that if a person claims to have consciousness apart from the body and the brain is flat lined, how can a person recall their NDE? This is a good point, but easily understood when one understands the nature of memories, the way we process information, and the way we recall that information.

There have been several recent studies on consciousness. One current theory is that consciousness is where the memories are stored, not in the brain as previously thought (Berkovich, 2001). Berkovich is in the forefront of scientists who is exploring the theory that as an information storage unit, the brain cannot possibly hold all the information that is required to function in our society. Consequently, scientist are considering the alternative that the brain is more of an accessing unit much like a radio receiver. The actual storage place is somewhere else, and NDEs would strongly suggest that place is the consciousness that survives the body.

Recent findings have shown that we typically store information as a core memory attached to an emotion and then file it in a concept area in the brain (Ornstein, 1991). When we retrieve our memories, we are programmed to "fill in the gaps." Therefore brain memories rarely are 100% totally accurate. Even Freud noticed that memories are stored by attaching emotion to them (p. 89). Emotions organize how we store and access information in the brain.

The expansion of consciousness is the fuel which fills the universe! :)

NT

I spent an awful lot of time over in the Evolution Lie thread reading "scientific" posts and then discovering that the "expert" was from another discipline of science, a mathematician or even a lawyer. I got annoyed!

I see the same pattern again. Grrrrr!

Simon Berkovich is a Professor of Engineering and Applied Science. Why the f*ck should I take this man's word on the molecular and synaptic mechanisms of memory? What is he likely to know about cytoplasmic polyadenylation, for instance?

"Consequently, scientist are considering the alternative" Who? What are their credentials that justify you posting in such an authoritative style?

As for NDE. Have there been any serious studies on this? Who has and who hasn't had one and under what circumstances? Taking into account the abnormal psychological and physiological state just before death or after resuscitation, I'd be pretty damn surprised if there WASN'T some form of screw-up in the brain that led to imaginary experiences. Let's also remember that thousands of people are convinced that they've been abducted by aliens or have seen ghosts - and this [b]without[/b] the aid of a knock on the head or anaesthetics.

Neil

Nothing personal, this. You're just caught in the fall-out from EL

If every event "recalled" in the human brain were taken to suggest some real event, we would also have to explain dreams with the existence of a realm where almost everybody goes to school or work, at least once, either fully naked or dressed only in undergarments. Like Neil said, remembering something that did not happen is not surprising in NDE's. If the brain has been dead, I would be more surprised if it returned to working order without at least a small malfunction.

You have asked before whether we need instruction on Fourier transform theory or your theory. It is your theory that does not make sense. Feel free to assume knowledge of Fourier's methods, and just make the application sensible.

Science is just the set of "laws" of nature as suggested
and accepted broadly till this point in time. What then
are these "laws" of science ? The laws are just "MODELS"
for explaining the phenomena observed in nature - as
closely, consistently, and conveniently as possible today.

All these laws and the concepts are objects of
human imagination and creative modelling that help
us understand certain observed phenomena.

As we know, the law of gravitation, electomagnetism,
mechanics, or relativity are all just models to explain
certain things. The lines of force, concept of energy,
momentum are all models to explain certain things. The
electron, proton, neutron are just models of explaining
the composition of matter. As we know, scores of more
elemental particles have been named (more elemental
than the electron, proton, neutron), and even they are
just models, which help explain the universe a little
better.

In the same sense, the assumption that brain is the
centre of all information processing is just another
model, which fits with certain observed phenomena today.
Tomorrow, more phenomena (hiterto unobserved) of nature
and human intellect will be observed, and then maybe a
more refined or drastically altered model of human
intellect will be devised.

My understanding of consciousness is that it is very
abstract and very distinct from knowledge. It is a
subjective thing like, say, pain is.

When we step on a thorn, as per our current model of
the brain, the electrochemical stimuli from the leg
are being interpreted in the brain, but we "feel" the
pain in the leg, not in the brain. If we are asked
what is hurting, we would show the leg, not the brain.

Similarly when we "feel" the existence of ourselves,
where do we "feel" it ? There is no clear answer, but
a certain phenomenon is observed almost universally
through a very simple experiment.

HERE IS THE EXPERIMENT (A VERY SIMPLE, LAYMAN TYPE).

TRY TO POINT TO YOURSELF WITH YOUR RIGHTHAND INDEX
FINGER.

WHERE DID YOU POINT TO ? MOST PROBABLY YOU POINTED
TO YOUR HEART, NOT YOUR BRAIN. WHY DID YOU NOT POINT
TO YOUR BRAIN ?

JUST LIKE YOU "FELT" THE PAIN IN THE LEG, DID YOU
"FEEL" YOURSELF ARE LOCATED IN YOUR HEART ?

I'm not sure what you were trying to say but I suspect it's just a little more of the "I don't understand it so I'll invent something to explain it" attitude that we, as a species, should have given up by now if we hope to mature. If you are going to offer explanations then they have to be [b]better[/b] than the prevailing theory and not just different. Some evidence would be useful.

Let's just (gently) blow away your post to me.

I pointed at my breastbone! Oooooo! Spooky!

Perhaps, though, because that's the easiest and most comfortable position for my relaxed arm when sitting at my PC. I've just done a test! I point to the same place when I'm standing! Possibly for the same reason or maybe it's just my misguided sense of self.

Pain? Really, your argument is very, very badly though out. Pain, by definition is a warning of hazard and injury. It HAS to be felt in the place where it will do some good.

Neil

p.s. I'm NOT a layman. I'm a scientist. So are an awful lot of the people that you're posting at. Some (most) are nicer than me - but not all. Absolutely not all.

Sorry.

I'm not kind.

In Japan, people point to their noses when speaking of themselves. Just social convention, which nobody bothers to correct or make more accurate by pointing to their foreheads, there or here, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE! It doesn't mean the Japanese believe their essence is contained in the nasal cavity, it means that isn't the topic on their minds in normal conversation, and it doesn't matter to them where their essence is stored.

Mr Universe? Isn't he the governor of California or something?

Excuse me, please. Is this the right thread? It just seems like EL all over again, but in disguise. I'm confused!

Why even try? He wouldn't know what oxymoron meant any more than he understands logic, let alone try to say it.

At least Dr Who knows a thing or two. Anyway, he's copyrighted, isn't he?

Proof, sir; where's the proof?

Same game, but with the 2nd & 3rd string on the field.

ippirate's out with laryngitis, MrMiami seems to be suffering from narcolepsy, so Black Panther's been called up from the farm league.

I can't wait to see if they try to draw Moses out of retirement.

Ask apotheon. As the champion of "there's no such thing as Intellectual [i]Property[/i]," from which flows "as long as I don't cause physical harm, I can profit as I damn well feel from you ideas," he'll certainly have a definitive answer.

Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to title a response to yourself "very astute"? Even though you're right.

;)

I [b]really[/b] need to know, so that I can design a better tin foil hat.

I pointed to my head.

My mother was right; I'll never amount to anything worthwhile.

What does that mean?

This is an "Answer" that he posted in Q&A re. removing Comet Cursors & Cool Web Search.

Don't you just love the convolutions generated by the fixed level structure here?

Now, if I can just find the damned frequency, we might have the answer.

I fully agree that obfuscation and confusion are running rampant here, assuming that is what you mean by "obfustifusion", but don't you think some are likely to take the invention of new words as encouragement to invent new sciences, new universes, and new, looser definitions of words like "thought", "think", "reason", "logic", "plausible" and "evidence"?

Level structure is the least irritating convolution here at INFORMATION AS AN EVASION.

Of alleged Sexual Abuse while under Hypnosis all of which failed to stand up to scrutiny when investigated in the cold light of day.

Unfortunately some of the people concerned where convicted on this pathetic evidence alone and will carry that stigma for the rest of their lives.

Col ]:)

Since they don't exist, they can be said to not matter, or equally accurately, to be composed of "non-matter".

All of the various realms of consciousness have different frequencies of vibration. For instance, you assume that the matter of earth is composed of atoms and that these atoms are composed of energy which vibrates. This matter of earth is denser than the matter of the higher realms. As you can see light waves which vibrate at a 'visual observing' rate, so you can see the matter of earth. However, as you cannot see radio or television waves which vibrate at too fast a rate to be seen, so you cannot see the matter of the world beyond, unless you are clairvoyant.

The spiritual bodies of those who have died vibrate at a rate too fast for your physical eyes to see. However, they can be viewed by clairvoyants whose sight has been opened to receive this faster vibration.

The astral world is almost a replica of your world, except that it is of a finer substance and we are not 'bound' by our objective reality as you are.

**Every action has an equal and opposite reaction** :)

What would exist??