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by ontheropes

the Japanese Keiritsu style of doing business? Awesome? I've formerly held a stoopid prejudice against my friends in Japan, (the Pearl Harbor thing) but a long time ago, I forced myself to look past it as they're incredibly creative people. Smart, well educated, hard-working and patriotic citizens.

I prefer buying American-made/brand products myself but Japanese products are absolutely worth, at minimum, a second look no matter where they're manufactured.

by ontheropes

Awhile back I had a mole on my throat that started to get hard and weird so what'd I do?

Let my fingernails grow a little longer and yanked it out. Hooaaa.

Hurt and bled for a little bit but it's all better now. Didn't cost me a dime. No scar.

:0
:( :)

by absolutely

implement it. Don't go away. Keep making noise. People don't "believe" stupid things, they just conform to whatever noises they hear the most, so keep making these intelligent noises, man!

by ontheropes

I have ideas on how to accomplish the above but after I worked out this whole issue for myself I'm basically just plain heart-broken. I understand what it's all about and my grief overwhelms me at times.

I'm probably not going to keep posting to this thread after this post. I can't bear to think of it all.

Before I go I want to say thank you. Thank you.

I see interconnectivity in many other areas and feel that I have solutions but again, who am I? Just a lone voice in the darkness who had to speak up, and speak out no matter the consequences.

My ass is kicked on this discussion.

Change is in the wind. Smells fantastic. Peace.

by dadspad

Looking back at the reply, 'reports' is probably a better word. But the other 'reports' I had seen were as factual as the those seen in the video. :)

Whistle-Blowers? I saw a report on 20/20 (does that show still exist?) on this subject, it seems that the law does not really protect them. (Actually, the law is real, but they still were still punished, courts did not support them.) So there must be a lot of satisfaction in doing this, as well as having money to support yourself. It's sad!

Wish I had a link.

Dad

by ontheropes

was mowing her lawn today (3 1/4 ") while I was out looking for my lost dog and I asked her if she'd seen him. She said she hadn't seen a rabbit or anything all day.

I've since found my dog and while just out in my yard, much smaller than hers, there are not only rabbits but squirrels, for the first time in 20 years, chipmunks. I'd rather watch them then mow my lawn.

Basically, they were here before I was.

What have you read about corporate farming and genetically engineered corn/produce? I've read about six different sides to that issue as well and know what I think about it and how it ties in to this discussion too.

by ontheropes

As I feel it's the right thing to do. I haven't given up. Once again, anyone can feel free to make anything they'd like to out of that. Perhaps I've had an epiphany that shook me to my core beliefs and I'm the only one.

So?

What do you think of the Miss Universe incident? Two sides to that coin, who/what do you think is right? No single sources people, multiple pro and con viewpoints, you know how to navigate the web right? :0

by absolutely

we'd never know for sure! Lucky for us, your previous statement was the opposite, and we weren't left hanging, so to speak.

:^0

So, there was an incident? Oh, crap, I guess I'll Google it...

[i]What do you think of the Miss Universe incident? Two sides to that coin, who/what do you think is right? No single sources people, multiple pro and con viewpoints, you know how to navigate the web right?[/i]

Uh, let's see, the parallel lines are latitude, and the not-quite-parallel lines are not, and the magnet points at an erased hard drive, correct?

by absolutely

I think, like every scandal, it's a publicity stunt perpetrated by somebody opportunistic who no talent of its own. I won't read more of it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238513,00.html

by ontheropes

than you understand. I think. It IS truly ironic idint it?
Whoa dude. B-)
Party Rock on!!!

I recommend Montgomery Gentry and crank it all the way up.

Your neighbors will love you for it. :)
If you ask them.

by tig2

At the recent Miss Universe pageant, Miss USA was loudly booed by the audience. She also fell on her ass.

Local news covered her fall before also mentioning that she had been booed.

People are tired of the US and are willing to tell us about it, it seems.

Took a moment to look for a citation, can't find one. Seems we're all going to forget about it.

by ontheropes

to breakout everywhere so I can find a good paying job with a company that won't violate my rights as I think of them. As long I can do "a" job well and am unimpaired I don't believe that any-sized business has a "right" to make me take a drug screen. Whatever I do with my free time is my business.

What do you really know about the "War on Drugs"?

What do you really know about Carl Sagan and many others?

What do you really know about the demographics of prisoners incarcerated in the United States?

I'm sure you've thought of those issues from as many different perspectives as I have. :^0

Edited to add this:

What do you really know about cancer and big-pharm, Chinese, native American and wholistic/holistic medicines, nutrition. I've dug in way far deep on those.

Seems like I have an opinion for myself there too.

Forgot to put a big C on Chinese.
Still editing:
Have you seen their architecture? I know what it looks like to me in comparison (mostly) to what I see and have seen in my travels here.

What do you really know about native American culture, thoughts, ideals and practices?

I'm trying, unsuccessfully, not to mention the Incan, Mexican and Mayan cultures and demographics so that you don't have too much homework. :)

One more edit then I promise I'm done:
How fast can you read/glance and comprehend?
What's the best reading/glancing method for you as an individual?

Do you need contacts or glasses? Really?
What are the alternatives and what's on the fore-front/bleeding edge of technology? How can that possibly be and how can you drive the price down so that more people can benefit?

OK. Talking to self - "That's enough of this shlt already. Shaddup stoopid!" :^0

I broke a promise based on my words alone that I made of my own free will and re-edited. I'm not sure why I did that exactly. Hmmm... let me think. :)
Words and images are cheap, mostly free and a clever saying proves nothing. :^0

Had to throw that last emote in there. Dunno why.

Hint: If it's not natural... don't "do" it. Sticking holes in your arms ferdamshure isn't natural along with a few other things I can think of by myself. What do you know and think?

by ontheropes

Mr. Trump? :^0
Some redneck :^0
All of the pieces of the puzzle are or were here all y'all.

Check your archives. :^0
Posted at the "wrong" level first time around.

Edited because I CAN edit. Thank you. :^0
Crank it up while you're looking things over.

by ontheropes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

Edited to add this: What do you really know about disturbed (?) teens that inflict injuries upon themselves?

by ontheropes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gIva5JW5uqQ

BJ himself called them that when I first saw it in concert.

by jamesrl

If so you might be thinking Michael Chricton who wrote "outbreak".

I've not seen anything from Tom Clancy on it, but there he writes a lot.

I don't think that you have a right to endanger other humans, and this moron knew he had a bad strain of TB and knew it was contagious before he left the US. He was told to stay in Italy. He snuck out.

He snuck back in through Czech and Canada.

I think the government has every right to quarentine him.

James

by ontheropes

Do you know what Tom Clancy's background is, in-depth?
Have you read and re-read all of his pre- Op-Center novels to understand what he's saying or did you just give them s once-over like most people seem to do because they already have a preformed opinion on it and are busy doing more "important" things?

Who was President during which periods? What happened during those times? It takes a lot of glue for any story to stick together but I don't just fritter around when I'm multi-tasking either.

by ontheropes

to me in lieu of a citation and forgetting about everything here including me

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sharewhat/ScreenShot334.jpg

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=museum&near=San+Francisco,+California,+United+States&ie=UTF8&view=map&om=1&layer=c&cbll=37.786543,-122.493491&cbp=2,301.359472786112,0.597284478470746,3&ll=37.797475,-

No "spin" at any of those links is there?

Raise your hands anyone if you didn't already know that "Big Brother" could do that.

I'm certain that the fine people working at Google don't have nefarious intentions. I have a friend who works there on their fantastic book project whatsitsname?
(thinking)

I can see where the ability to do that depending upon need and location might be useful to LEO's (who are generally pretty nice people) for identifying/tracking potential crimes and/or perpetrators. What was it Apotheon has posted at his blog that really started this entire thread? Tantamount to a thought crime?

Things are looking up a little bit locally. Kind of - the garbage dump just hired a 4 more people and the road commission put on 3 road-service jobs. The guy I talked to said there were 300 people standing in line for those jobs. They pay $8.50/hr.

There are a total of 5 jobs like that for my area. That's all.

My neighbor loses his good paying manufacturing job four weeks from now and lined-up a a job that pays less and is 3 hours from here.

I talked to him while he was mowing his lawn. :(

I'm not a lemming and actually had what I think was a productive day.
I know how to hold-on and hang-on until the manufacturing base that I think this country needs allows the US to not be a service based economy.

Decent paying manufacturing jobs would require that I relocate and start the debt/credit cycle all over again which I will not do.

There are a couple of positions for degreed people in another area of expertise but the job restrictions are, I think absolutely oppressive and unnecessary.

Besides taxes I see 6 different hands in the pockets of whoever takes those jobs, if the Homeland Hysteria dept. even allows them permission, that is.

Do you recycle? We recycle virtually everything here. It's only old-fashioned common sense which has, unfortunately, become not very common anymore.

We even turn off the lights if no-one is using them. I can see well enough in the dark. It's not as "easy" and "convenient" but I've thought about it. Saves money.

From Vice-President of Operations to saving bottle and can refund cash for Christmas. Woohoo.

Long story there that I'm not even going to bother trying to explain. Not germain to the discussion or is it?

Have to think about that.

Do you know what the moon looks like tonight or were/are you doing "important" things? Or maybe you're just plain-tired after dumping chemicals on your picture perfect lawn, and rushing to and from your service jobs? Good commute was it? :^0

Oh I forgot, it's grammatical errors that make you look stoopid! :^0 :^0 :^0 :( :( :(

I also discovered, from my neighbor, that it costs $100 with increasing fees (taxes) for each occurrence if an animal control person picks up your lost dog instead of just bringing it back to you or giving you a phone call. Any dog with a tag cost's $100 to buy for a tiny bit of metal and a few minutes work. I call the above the "dog tax".

Gotta' pamper ol' Fido though. I think.
Toys up the wazoo when a stick works great for mine. Mine knows how to sit, fetch, lay-down and I swear he almost talks. I didn't have to pay someone to train him. I like him, it was more fun spending time with him, seeing if I could do it by myself. Learned a few things too. The hard way. :^0

I don't condone drinking and driving, in the least, but maybe now I know why Nick Nolte, Charlie Sheen and others got trashed and detained. Maybe they finally realized what's been going on under their very noses.

Maybe the Ozzman and many, many, many others had it all figured out before me too. What do I know? Oh, that's right, I used Google and listened, really listened hard, to a ton, a ton of music from the 50's on up until today.

BIG shout out Beth: Tracy Chapman -Talkin' Bout A Revolution from her "Heaven's Here on Earth" CD. You may find it at youtube.com too, I haven't looked since I have the original disc also stored on my pc.

BTW - Today the moon looks like this :0 to me.

One last edit. It's odd that some of you in-depth, hands-on experienced, forever critical thinking, trained (?) in multiple fields, IT Pro's have a hard time even getting on-line and/or broadband access.

Doh!

I don't have a degree. Sorry, I'm SOL. :^0

I use all 5 of my senses wide-full-throttle-open too. Everyday.

I hardly ever have problems on-line. It only happens when I read and listen to "somebodies" idea of too much about stuff that interests me and my access is throttled back. Coincidental and irrelevant isn't it?

I'm thinkin' I should give my ol' friend Teddly "gutpile" Deadly a ring-up or visit..I know, exactly, where his dadspad is located. Nice guy. Super-nice as a matter of fact. Grew up with him and a couple of other SuperBowl... Oh wait... Winners!

What a head to head competition THAT was, when I wasn't as old as I am now. Knocked his ass out, almost. Career highpoint for moi...! :^0
Woohoo. :^0
I also know a few astronauts and BBall, Pro Golf stars from the good ol' daze/neighborhood and two people who ran for my homestate Senate. One of 'em I've known for 42 years, the other only 40 years.

Think they'll listen to my sorry ass? :^0

Let me see, Hmmm... how many Champions of NASCAR and racing engineering do I know locally... off of the top of my head 1,2,3,4,5,6 ok... 7. Then there are all of those Mobil Engineering dudes, that's another what... 14! Of course I have my good bud who's a Veep or something stoopid at Boeing. Almost (never) forgot about him

Then there are the doods that build hospitals and fire-stations and libraries in their spare time. They can't golf for shlt though.

Then there's that dood in Georgia, ol' knows everybody dood. Whatsisname? Took me out to dinner... every day... way out. Taught me to golf/laughed his ass off. I still have the ball from the best golf-shot I ever made under his direction/advice. It's within arms reach. On the original tee too

Mind explosion. :^0

I think.

Piss me off whydoncha?

Skeered? Nope. Downright pissed off? Yep. Hovering chopper in the air. Last edit for time and date stamp. "Miles to go before I sleep..." Still... Noisy aren't they. If you pay attention, they're as bad as the real deal. :( :^0

by ontheropes

of your hard-working day if you weren't legally and illegally and astronomically taxed almost to death? Enough to invest wisely for a nice retirement I'll betcha. Self-responsibility?

Where do your tax dollars go? I mean where do they really go? Have you looked it up using multiple sources or were you distracted? How responsible and efficient is your local, state and "federal" government looking out for you personally? I know how well mine is looking out for me.

by ontheropes

Was anyone beaten to a bloody pulp or just their knuckles/fists banging on the door for heat.

I apologize folks, seriously, but I am what you get when there's a thirst for knowledge but no money to pay for it and no "directed/desired" curriculum. :^0

WYSIWYG

My public libraries saw me regularly from the time I could read (big grocery... Dad laughs. :^0 Ok... Big George) and actually think for myself. I can't quite keep track of time though. With whom do I have that in common? Out of place but I don't care... Stacks of books, every week, never a late fee. :)
Read an entire encyclopedia my Mom bought for me. Don't care if you believe it. Oh... that's right! You might buy a book or two when you're out on the weekly spending spree :^0 even though the public library is still open.
There seem to be a few books missing now from the Congressional Library though.

Hmmm...

Which ones?

WWWWW and H?

Elementary...

by ontheropes

sticking out of my black, short-sleeved shirt pocket, it's where he wanted to go. How could that even be relevant here?

It's a bummer when you can't blame editing on a kitten on the keyboard. :^0

by ontheropes

To the first two who can reason it all out. I'll split all of my books evenly (maybe) between ya'. That means both will only have how much work to do on their own? :0 :^0

by ontheropes

GREAT place to feel the pulse of America. SFW too. Takes less than a minute. Cracks me up. NBC Today. Yes. Switch on all 5. You'll love everyone for doing it.

by ontheropes

Lines. What lines? I musta missed that part of my own test :(

What does ol' Isaac (other one) think about thinking?

by ontheropes

uses for Googles creations aren't there? Capital W ow! Just thinking about it makes my head spin

by ontheropes

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sharewhat/MyDesktop.jpg

Who said, "many mansions?" What does/could it mean to you?

What's in between the mansions?

What have physicists been looking for for a long time?

It was right there in front of us all the time. We were just too distracted with other nonsense to even think about it 'til now huh?

:^0 :^0 :^0

Let's let the kids answer this one 'k? :)

Free to all y'all from RockSolid.

Peace. It's only over when you say it's over.

WOOHOO!!!!!

by ontheropes

...in case anyone was wonderin'. :0

The short version explaining my absence? Life is GREAT. It's the daily routine that can be a PITA.

The long version is only available in person, as some of my old LEO and highly placed military friends have discovered.
Cryptic huh?

Deal with it.

Yes I edited.

Seriously...
Peace. ;)

:^0

by absolutely

What is 'LEO'? I thought I knew it, guessing from context in one of your messages, but if I did I forget. Please enlighten me. Is it anything more than an attempt to keep us guessing?

:^0

PS Is it too much to ask to kick harder?

by ontheropes

I'm kicking as hard as I can and no it's no trouble. I've been kickin' the hell out of preconceived notions amongst some top of the line 2% types all of this past week.

I'm literally talking about the kind of people who invented the first Cyclotron from a few raw ideas. I have several appointments scheduled to do more of the sameo sameo.

I know a LOT of people. I guess I forgot to mention that in my profile. :)

by ontheropes

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/premiere_dees.jpg

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/dont.jpg

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/jetfueldees.jpg

Now... let's get to work. There are puhlenty of people that need a helping hand-up not a hand-out. I've been extremely busy doing just that with both of my hands.

Peace on you. :0 :)

Thanks again to both Apotheon and Absolutely.

by absolutely

None of those three should ever laugh again. But they do, [b]especially[/b] when talking about terrorism. WTH?

About the helping hand-up: OK, OK, I hear ya.

Peace on you also, even though you are a nuisance.

by ontheropes

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/11/vets.suicide/index.html

Oh wait... I think my sole detractor :^0 was speaking like a true rogue warrior, patriotic-type man. :|

Domo arigato, Dr. Roboto.

by absolutely

You present good ideas, which go against the grain. You maybe right, but that doesn't mean I enjoy your statements.

by ontheropes

...it's my STATEMENTS and not ME that create the nuisance.

It's almost like I knew that. ;)

I must go now, "America's Got Talent", is on the boob-tube and my hardworking neighbor is mowing his yard so loudly that I really have to concentrate. :(

by absolutely

The Constitution ...

Well, there's some interesting history about the 'ratification' of the Amendment that 'allows' direct income tax. Even if that Amendment was ratified properly, the same reasons that direct taxes were abhorrent to the Founders form a strong argument to repeal that Amendment now.

by tonythetiger

"allowing" its collection may not mean the same thing as "mandating" its payment. Perhaps they're "allowed" to pass the hat "requesting" contributions.

I'm not going to test that just now, however :)

by ontheropes

Is anyone doing any hiring out your way?
Just kidding-too far to commute.

I'm going to add you to "My Contacts" in case I start straying outside of this discussion again at TR.

I had a problem with a former employer, formerly the largest mold-making facility in North America, when they went to "cafeteria style" benefits. That was quite some time ago. Even then I felt that people should investigate and resolve the real issues behind rising insurance costs. My vocal protests fell on deaf ears. The thinking seemed to be that since I was one of three employees who were paid the most per hour I could afford it better than anyone else and I should just shut-up.

That mold-shop is NOTHING like it used to be now.
It's pathetic.
Some of those people have had to take a second job because they over-extended themselves and counted on their overtime always being there. Bad idea.

Of course, they generally look down on me for having had to file personal bankruptcy. I think it's funny that most of those that do that are the same people who don't believe that their spouses would ever cheat on them.

Video at 11:00.

by tonythetiger

[i]resolve the real issues behind rising insurance costs.[/i]

That's easy. Ever increasing regulation requiring ever increasing levels of bureaucracy costs ever increasing amounts of money to be paid to comply with. That cost (as do all of them) gets passed along to the consumer.

Get the government out of our lives except for infrastructure maintenance, and stop penalizing people for being successful, and most of this country's problems would be gone within a few months.

by ontheropes

If our government gets any more involved in our lives and "chips" the cash we withdraw from the bank too maybe we'll find ourselves paying an income tax at everyplace we spend that cash.

Demanding that a Real ID be used for every transaction could accomplish the same thing.

I feel safer from terroristicalular (GW) activity too. Don't you?

by ontheropes

http://www.policestateplanning.com/id19.htm

I know what I think about it.

Pertinent to the original topic?

What does anyone else think?

by ontheropes

this mostly one-sided discussion. (echo) (echo) (echo)

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/06/13/cb.burnout/index.html

Instead of the authors last paragraph I'd say take care of your family but... I guess work is much more important. :^0 :^0 :^0 :| :(

What cart before what horse?

by ontheropes

Outstanding.

I'm calling it, almost, a three way tie for "first" place as if anyone cares.

Sidenote: My neighbor asked me to mow part of his lawn after his mower broke. He also said that he hates mowing. Weird neighbor. "Why mow it then," I thought as I was mowing it down to the level, where it's almost dead, as he does.

Another sidenote: Ever heard about the bee problems? Lack of bees I mean. My yard has honeybees on the clover flowers. They like it here too.

I also haven't been stung, by anything outside, for years.

I won't whine about my allergic response to certain stings. I'd rather have bees than have to mow two to three times a week. I'm outdoors a lot. Look for me on Google Earth. :0 :)

by tonythetiger

That actually makes it easier for unwanted plants to infiltrate, and bare spots to form. I let it grow to 6 and mow it to 4.

by ontheropes

Give my lawn a flat-top occasionally.

You find some weird stuff when you do that. My son-in-law discovered a rabbits nest/den while mowing last year. I've held three baby rabbits all at the same time in the palm of my right hand. His sister took them and raised them 'til she let them back out into the "wild".

Pheasants are returning. I expect to see one in my yard any day now, they're so close.

We've had Crows in the rear of my neighbors yard just today. (His yard is deeper than mine.) Crows used to be common-place here then it went over to Ravens, then the Ravens disappeared. I haven't seen one since I was a kid.

We have, "The Sibley Field Guide to Birds of Eastern North America" (strange for LA :) )

I spent an hour picking out a "bird book" and I think it's the best for us. Tons of illustrations. There are still two birds that have visited our feeders that we haven't been able to identify via book or WWW.

I've seen extraordinary bird behavior that I haven't read about anywhere either. I must be ignorant.

by absolutely

[i]With all due respect, what is libertarianism if not an anarchic, passionately ahistorical form of laissez-faire capitalism? The cowboy, frontier capitalism still embraced by inordinate numbers of people in the US (especially the Southwest and Texas), Australia, Alaska, and other places where the vastness of the land confuses the superficial thinker into believing that vastness equals infinity?[/i]

It's in the crowded cities that the [b]rights[/b] to be armed while not a drug dealer are most important to survival. But in the countryside, where the dangers of being unarmed are distant enough to allow some contemplation between shooting of coyotes, the ideas that defined this country are being refined and redefined.

As food for thought goes, pretty good eatin'.

by ontheropes

http://hihi.elmer.org/images/ballardst.4.gif

What do you know about Ed and Elaine Brown?

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070609/REPOSITORY/706090329

by absolutely

My favorite, by far, is 'Expand' from page 5.

#2: 'BEHEAD THOSE WHO SAY ISLAM IS VIOLENT'

OMG!

by ontheropes



It took awhile to sort through some of the 19K+ pix I have but I found it.

Since it's Friday and time for a yuk (I need one) here are a few more mixed links and pix. Some are even funny.

http://hihi.elmer.org/images/peanuts.5.gif

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sharewhat/FP0001423.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sharewhat/FP0001326.jpg







Warning:This one hits hard. http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/sharewhat/FP0001191.jpg

How I feel sometimes.







I want one.





Interesting sidenote: The only picture I'd posted so far this month was my yet my photobucket account has 14000 hits already. PB shows hits everytime someone views an image as in viewing this discussion and replies. :D



by ontheropes

http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/twenty061207.htm

Dammit!!!

http://rense.com/general76/tx.htm

Again... Dammit!!!

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/13/1852/

Scroll down to "Taking War To The Pumps" here: http://www.pacificfreepress.com/content/view/1314/81/

How much would my gasoline cost for my lawn mower if... :0

by absolutely

In the future, don't fart at table, and don't let me see another example of this 'ignorance is bliss' type of nonsense from you or I'll never read ANOTHER WORD of yours!

by ontheropes

I just received my AFTF DVD yesterday. Ordered 5/22. There must be a backlog or hitch in the giddy-up somewhere as its only s'posed to take 10 days.

All I need now is the 911WeKnow DVD set and I can finally explain everything I know to my wife and "kids"... and neighbors... and friends... and anyone without a deep bitbucket and broadband who'll watch and listen.

I think the following lyrics by Gordon Lightfoot are appropriate.

Don Quixote

Through the woodland, through the valley
Comes a horseman wild and free
Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be
He is wild but he is mellow
He is strong but he is weak
He is cruel but he is gentle
He is wise but he is meek
Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a battered book into his hand
Standing like a prophet bold
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Till he can shout no more


I have come o'er moor and mountain
Like the hawk upon the wing
I was once a shining knight
Who was the guardian of a king
I have searched the whole world over
Looking for a place to sleep
I have seen the strong survive
And I have seen the lean grown weak


See the children of the earth
Who wake to find the table bare
See the gentry in the country
Riding off to take the air


Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a rusty sword into his hand
Then striking up a knightly pose
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Till he can shout no more


See the jailor with his key
Who locks away all trace of sin
See the judge upon the bench
Who tries the case as best he can
See the wise and wicked ones
Who feed upon lifes sacred fire
See the soldier with his gun
Who must be dead to be admired


See the man who tips the needle
See the man who buys and sells
See the man who puts the collar
On the ones who dare not tell
See the drunkard in the tavern
Stemming gold to make ends meet
See the youth in ghetto black
Condemned to life upon the street


Reaching for his saddlebag
He takes a tarnished cross into his hand
Then standing like a preacher now
He shouts across the ocean to the shore
Then in a blaze of tangled hooves
He gallops off across the dusty plain
In vain to search again
Where no one will hear


Through the woodland, through the valley
Comes a horseman wild and free
Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be
He is wild but he is mellow
He is strong but he is weak
He is cruel but he is gentle
He is wise but he is meek



Feeling maudling this morning. Sue me.

For my wife whom I love more than my own life: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xXL0NelQK-U

by ontheropes

Just another unknown mystery. Personal this time.

?It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards?.

This is off-topic, or is it?

We've had a golf-cart sitting next to the large barn for years now weathering with the elements. There was a large pile of wood that got stacked in front of it and I wanted the cart moved from there to the barn door concrete apron so I could repair whatever is wrong with it. Good idea but I didn't have any way of moving it. My snatch-strap is NFG and I can't find my ?come-along? either. I could find one of my friends to help but I wasn't up to the point of asking for help yet.

I moved the wood-pile (twice-don't ask) so that I could plant sunflowers for the birds where the wood-pile used to stand and in doing so I made a path for moving the golf-cart out too.

In sprucing up the place I noted, behind the barns, a 6-cyl. in-line Ford engine long-block and an old snowmobile that both needed to be hauled away too as I have no use for either. The engine block is half buried in the dirt but could be rebuilt if someone was inclined to do that, same goes for the snowmobile.

So, I was outside filling a planter box I'd made from an old picnic table and I was filling it with a mixture of half cow-manure and half topsoil. Always thinking, I decided to give my 30 year old houseplant ?Rapunzel? a much needed make-over when I was done poop scooping.

While trimming Rapunzel, my 75y.o. neighbor from a few houses down rode his lawn tractor over here, out behind the barns, parked it and walked right over to me. (Where's my shotgun) :^0

It seems he wanted to get that old engine block and snowmobile after offering to move the golf-cart from beside the barn so he could take a good look at it and possibly buy it from us. I told him that the cart might not be for sale but he pulled it out with his John Deere 4x2 cart and helped me park it on the apron anyway. :0

He'll come back and grab the long-block and snowmobile later as he has a party to go to today.

Someone explain all that circumstance to me would ya'?

Good luck.

I'm sure you, the reader, have had similar experiences. Some call it luck. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. You decide.

I could go on and on about it but what's the point?

Re: 75y.o. neighbor- I've talked to him twice before today. The last time was 5 years ago. I talked to him at length today. He was a U.S. Army medic during the Korean Conflict. I'm proud to know him and have him for my neighbor.

by absolutely

[i]This is off-topic, or is it?[/i]

There is a topic?

[i]Someone explain all that circumstance to me would ya'?[/i]

You don't really want it explained, do you? You'd rather file it with UFO's & telepathy, right? OK, "I don't understand it".

[Actually, I do: there is nothing in that story [b]to[/b] understand. You've been alive several years. Simple probability, along with the amount of commonality built-in to human interests and the frequency of our interactions calls for a certain number of such serendipities in each lifetime. It's nothing to write home about.]

by ontheropes

I'm the dood that believes in the possibility of UFO's being from space and telepathy, like communication from a young Son to a Mother, might be possible realities too. I should be taken out and shot post haste so I stop making noise. Then everyone could sleep much better knowing that me and MY type of person are successfully dealt with so folks can get on with the American dream and the rape of the world to support it can continue, unhindered by the truth.

There's an apathetic and ignorant topic and you know it too. You don't fool me for a minute. I updated my avatar for you just 'cuz I can.

In case you're wondering, I made this:

From this:

Sure, it could use more frames to be smoother but it was close enough for me that I didn't add anything more.

by ontheropes

Mother of us all
Place of our birth
How can we stand aside
And watch the rape of the world


This the beginning of the end
This the most heinous of crimes
This the deadliest of sins
The greatest violation of all time


Mother of us all
Place of our birth
We all are witness
To the rape of the world


You've seen her stripped mined
You've heard of bombs exploded underground
You know the sun shines
Hotter than ever before


Mother of us all
Place of our birth
We all are witness
To the rape of the world


Some claim to have crowned her
A queen
With cities of concrete and steel
But there is no glory no honor
In what results
From the rape of the world


Mother of us all
Place of our birth
We all are witness
To the rape of the world


She has been clear-cut
She has been dumped on
She has been poisoned and beaten up
And we have been witness
To the rape of the world


Mother of us all
Place of our birth
How can we stand aside
And watch the rape of the world


If you look you'll see it with your own eyes
If you listen you will hear her cries
If you care you will stand and testify
And stop the rape of the world
And stop the rape of the world


Stop the rape of the world
Mother of us all
Mother of us all
Mother of us all
Mother of us all...

by ontheropes

I also don't believe that time always travels directly into the future at the rate of one second per second regardless of your relative speed and motion.





Shoot me.





https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=223233&messageID=2245235

by absolutely

Uh, well, if it's unidentified, in the sky and seemingly at high altitude, isn't "space" as likely a point of origin as "Earth", if not moreso? I mean, depending on the specific appearance of the UFO you mean, of course. If you're speaking of a "UFO" that is a boy on a bike, it's most likely a Hollywood visual effect. If, on the other hand, it's just the first falling star you've ever seen, then most likely the "UFO" in question [b]is[/b] from outer space!

:)

"I should be taken out and shot post haste so I stop making noise. Then everyone could sleep much better knowing that me and MY type of person are successfully dealt with so folks can get on with the American dream and the rape of the world to support it can continue, unhindered by the truth."

You're awfully sensitive, aren't you? Especially considering your stated interest in "making people think".

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=223233&messageID=2242766

"What's the name of my picture?

Who else did something similar in the past and was successful??
I have zero expectations but I like my picture. For now anyways :^0
Everybody laugh g'head but keep thinking."

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=223233&messageID=2238391

"I [i]know[/i] that you are capable of thinking for yourself."

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=223233&messageID=2243061

"Keep thinking Sir
You'll get it."

Well, on second thought, you do post a wide variety of information and uncommon persepctives. Depending which ones you actually espouse, maybe you are the sort of person that some people would hastily quip about "having taken out and shot". I hate such people, by the way, to the maximum degree allowed by law, and didn't mean to provoke anything more than the thought that despite the seriousness of it all, none of the news you post "is the end of the world". Perhaps that thought was too self-evident, and I shouldn't have bothered suggesting it. Anyway, with or without your previous work experience as a sheriff, you don't seem to me the type of person I'd set out to offend.

Best wishes, Ropes.

by absolutely

"I never learned from a man who agreed with me."
~Robert A. Heinlein

But I guess you knew that already.

"There's an apathetic and ignorant topic and you know it too."

There are innumerable ignorant and apathetic topics. Discussion of the attributes "ignorance" and "apathy" as primary topics are less interesting to me than discussion of specific topics, which tend to remedy ignorance, and thereby remedy apathy. Sue me.

I get the impression that at some point I ought to have requested permission to speak freely, and I mean that with only a dash of sarcasm. Honestly, you do seem to me like a general on the field that I'm an infantryman.

Best wishes, Ropes.

by absolutely

http://www.qwoter.com/spam.php?symbol=CAON.OB

Gotten any interesting SPAM lately? I have.

Do you use a Canadian email address perchance?

Do you send from a Comcast IP address?

by ontheropes

Gmail correctly sorted them into the Spam folder where I deleted them forever. I've since set mail-filter.com for that particular email address to prevent any spam from hitting my Gmail account. I wouldn't characterize any of the spam as interesting and I do blame myself for getting spam in the first place as I signed up to win a "free laptop" just to see how spammy things would be. Mail-filter.com stopped (guessing) 95% of the spam I knew I'd get. Between them and Gmail I've had a pretty easy time of it. No "free laptop" though. Bummer.

The chart/link you presented was slicker than... errr... pretty nice. They could color-code the bars to show country of origin and it'd be even slicker than... errr... even better. :D

If you were an infantryman and I was in the field with you I'd likely find myself in the same fox-hole with you digging it just a bit larger and deeper, putting in a latrine, grenade trap and possibly a hot-tub.

"Lead from the front." = words to live by and possibly die by too.

Who wants to live forever? Right?

That was a HELL of a compliment you lobbed at me. GREATLY appreciated. I put that in my mental notebook as one of the greatest compliments I've ever received. Now... If you please... Knock it off. I stated somewhere towards the beginning of this thread that we are all in this together. Perhaps I should've finished that statement by adding, "as equals" but there is a document we're both familiar with that states the whole equal jazz pretty clearly. I'm glad to think of myself as your equal TYVM. That's all I am really no matter what anyone thinks. I kind of like you too. Didn't used to but now I'm not sure why/why not. :0

I don't use a Canuck email/ISP nor do I use Comcastic. I have Direcway/Hughesnet 2-way satellite and have had it for years. I like it but it can be a bit pricey for the average Joe.

Sensitive? Me? Okay, I'm busted there. I'm the kind of dood that makes everyone wait while I help Granny out of the store and to her ride in the parking lot at K-mart. It can be a little embarrassing to some, occasionally, it seems but I mostly don't give a rip. I can BE offended too easily too. I'm calling it a character defect of mine. My Mother as well as my wife both like me and that's what matters.

This whole thread has been like being dragged thru a knothole backwards. I wish, (wish?) it would all just go away but that's unlikely to happen. Wishes are like hopes are like prayers are like desires. They're all the same, if you ask me. Know that I wish the best for you too. Feel free to PM me anytime about anything. I'll likely talk at you again later on down the road... This one or another one.

by ontheropes

No way... I guess they don't know what some other people here profess to know about airplanes, architecture, demolition, engineering, metallurgy, evidence etc.

(Dance a jig, spin around, stop and think about it, sit down and cry, become angry all over again)

:^0 :) :| :( :_| X-(

http://www.wanttoknow.info/070618professorsquestion911

by apotheon

The key points here relate to what parts of the popular US understanding of what happened she thinks require questioning -- and what specific reasons she has for thinking these things should be questioned.

I've read some of her writings, and have found what she had to say at least thoughtful and agreeable. She's a strong supporter of Ron Paul for President in 2008, too, so she definitely can't be all bad. I have yet to hear of someone with conspiracy theories about 9/11 that didn't sound like paranoid fantasies, however. If she knows of something more compelling, I'd definitely like to hear/read about it.

I seem to recall that she's a [b]retired[/b] Lt. Colonel, though, now basically working as a political pundit.

(edit: emphasis on "retired")

by ontheropes

It's posted near the beginning of this thread and then again later on down the line. It's over an hour long so grab a few cold ones, sit back and try not to throw your monitor out a window while watching it. Maybe it's just me that gets to feeling that way. I believe the issues in the video are some of what she's referring to besides a great deal of other issues re: the Pentagon, Pennsylvania etc.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003

I agree with you about Ron Paul, not to make an issue out of it here, but anyone who believes in less governmental interference in my life just can't be all bad.

by ontheropes

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B624FD80A-BE0F-44A7-B610-A960E62B6803%7D&language=EN

by ontheropes

...but I lost my link/data so of course no one here believed me when I posted a discussion about it. I don't blame anyone.

Doesn't change the fact that I knew it either.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

by ontheropes

To paraphrase the words from a good song

Max maximum paranoia from the minimum fun.

There seems to be some feeling amongst us paranoid types that the Bush/Cheney administration is going to soon create an event similar to what occurred on 9/11/01.

It's possible.

This entire discussion has really been about how deep the rabbit-hole is for YOU, not me. For ME the rabbit hole goes all of the way through. Nothing is what it appears to be on the surface. Nothing. So I'm uber-paranoid. That doesn't mean that I'm uber-wrong. It could just mean that I know more and pay closer attention to the leads and leaks in our beloved governmental institutions. In other words, there may be good reasons to be paranoid.

I can't explain everything I know. It's impossible. The trick is to present some of what I know in a form that won't look too incredible to be believed. That's the crux of the problem here and has been since the original post. People are wont to shoot the messenger. Argue with the people that made the videos and those who created the other ?evidence? presented to you. I'm simply providing a somewhat coherent conveyance for the entire message. You still have to decide if you can prove everything wrong. Good luck.

Simply saying that you know more than 100 Doctors and Professors as well as the numerous highly credible people involved in the links here just isn't going to cut the mustard. You must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. You can't.

Let's go back to where I said that ?it's possible? something is going to happen. That's similar to my saying ?watch for the spin? as I did earlier. It's not over yet my friends. The Bush/Cheney administration is still in full swing and their arrogance is seemingly even greater. I think that's because that's what poker players do when other people think you're losing but you still hold cards you haven't played yet. They're waiting for someone to call their bluff so they can throw down their ace high royal straight flush. Just wait. They'll go ?all in.?

I have a feeling that there's still a plan for domestic terrorism but it's going to be seriously flawed, worse than 9/11/01. What would you do if you were criminally insane and wanted to have the most impact on the American people. You'd ?attack? America on a day of significance. Our government seems to prime us for that. Will we make it past Independence day? I think so. I think ?something? will happen on a ?feel good? day if it happens. Hurt folks where they live, hurt them hard and create the most outrage that you can. Something that demands swift retaliation and maximum lock-down of information. Can't you almost hear the words broadcast on every channel. ?My fellow Americans this nation has been struck a terrible blow by our enemies...?

I hope I'm wrong. I seriously hope I'm wrong.

We've become so conditioned to corruption among our leaders that it's a sad joke. You know who sees it easiest. Kids. They don't have the same preconceived notions about how things ?should? be. They can see that things are ?wrong? and wonder why their parents don't see it. Why don't parents see it? Preconceived notions developed over years. As parents we're supposedly more educated so we often teach our kids to ignore what they see and learn. We often tell them, ?that's just the way it is?.

One of the things I've instilled in my kids is to never trust the government. Ever. Be on alert to people that take your money and make the rules that determine how much of your money they're able to take then watch what they do with the money.

Voted themselves a raise didn't they? How hard have they worked to keep this a free nation and represent me and mine? Man, they sure do deserve a raise don't they?

Do you trust your Boss.? Really? One hundred percent? :^0

The only people I trust 100% are my wife and daughter. I give my son-in-law the benefit of the doubt because I know him and I know my daughter who says that he's trustworthy. Those three have never screwed me over. My son? I know him and wish that he would stand by his word. 'Nuff said.

If you trust your work boss and bosses and the government 100% I can check to see if my therapist has any open appointments. He could use a good laugh but then again, he might find it really sad.

What am I rambling on about now? It's not over boys and girls. It's all far from being over and I think that it's going to get worse before it gets better.

I have a couple of personal plans.

First: Pay-off the 12 ga. double-barreled, nickel-plated coach shotgun I just threw on layaway. Eight more payments and it's mine. (I can do it in six week.)Very suitable for home defense. No. 4 buckshot won't penetrate walls as well as a pistol bullet and possibly hurt my neighbors. It's also much easier to use than my 8 round LAW 12 shotgun with magazine cut-off. I know how to use THAT but my wife could use something simple when the merde hits the ventilator. It's quite a persuader. Just the sight of it would stop ME in my tracks.

My second goal is to get CCW; carry concealed weapons permits for all four of us in my ?family?. I'm going .45 caliber semi-auto. I've seen ballistic gel results and have read about unfortunate real-life events and I'm sticking with .45 caliber. I'm thinking my son-in law will too, Th women will go with something more petite no doubt, 9mm minimum..

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Why CCW's? Why not. When I was copping around I saw that the only people who feared me were the ones seeking to hurt me. No one needs to fear me unless they're going to hurt me. Then they night have another think coming.

Better to have it and not need it than to need it an not have it. That's the simple truth.

Oh shoot. I need more coffee. Cleaning up after a storm wore me out.Have you ever seen the average home. It's a security nightmare. An electric chainsaw can make a 6 foot opening in a matter of a few minutes. Fairly quiet too. Run it off a cheap inverter installed in a normal vehicle. One minute of noise, drowned out by music and I'd be in. A wet newspaper placed over a window cut's down on broken window noise, cut the power and a phone line and unless your security system includes UPS back up and cell phone that can't be jammed you aren't safe. You AREN'T safe. A simple good swift kick will bust the majority of wooden entry door. Home invasions anyone? Don't be ignorant. Ignorance can kill you.

I'm tired. I'm going to post this for what little it could be worth.

Take care, be safe and above all... Think.

by ontheropes

http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

I'll have to go back and follow the links on the above page just because I'm interested in alternate viewpoints. Over the course of time some alternative views and ideas have proven to be true.

by absolutely

"There's an apathetic and ignorant topic and you know it too."

Heh-heh, what else could I really say to that, "I don't know what you're talking about, and anyway, I don't care" ?

You are one clever dood!

by ontheropes

"Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right."
http://www.newhouse.com/congressman-denied-access-to-post-attack-government-continuity-plans.html