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by tyson44

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when i restart a message comes on before the CPU and MEM check

something like

113 73701 IRQ MCLCK 166 AIW samsung/micron DDR without DLL NTSC d4min1r1.370

hard to see some of the things might not be right

is this normal? if not what does it mean?

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by fossil

This is a guess, and should not be taken as anything more.
MCLCK refers to the sytem clock of Mater CLock
THe machine was/is clocked at 166 MHz. It migth have been modified / overclocked at a higher speed.
Memorry was added. The added memory is Double Datta Rate (DDR) running at ahigher spped than the bus can accomodate.
NTSC usually means National TelevisionSystem Comittee ( for info see http://www.ntsc-tv.com )which makes me think of diplay adapaters.
Since this is happening before the BIOS POST, it's probably something leading to that.
So, putting these things together, I'd guess that there's an incompatiblity between some of your system components that are not operating at the clock speed intended. SOme guesses:
-Motherboard was tweaked to be overclocked.
-Memory was added, probably DDR, that is not operating at the "double" rate.
-Display adapter had a jumper changed

Just guesses, but perhaps..... one never knows.

by tyson44

thx for the guess, i do think something is up with the display... i've been having problems(check previous posts).
i have a KA7-100 mobo it has the dip switches for overclocking, they're all off which means its running at CPU default FSB speed.
i have PNY SDRAM on my system i dont know y it says micron there or DDR....

by d_v ant

Since you are also having problems running with graphics acceleration, I would have to say that your graphics card is failing. Try to find a replacement card that you can install to see if the problem goes away. Since you are getting the error when the card is being initialized, it is not related to your OS or drivers.

by tyson44

i'll try that eventually... but it has to be a problem with the settings(i hope) or the motherboard just cant handle it (abit ka7-100)

by wanabedrsean

This message flashes by real quick It is part of the post it is the video card posting to be specific.

by wanabedrsean

this massage dosent nessasarily mean there is anything wrong with the video it is just a post and the memory it refers to is the ddr on the video card and it is probably talking about the speed of the processor on the video card I think you also have a tv out on this card because of the ntsc part of the message witch is a brodcast format that american tv's use. I cant be sure because you have a hard time seing anything that goes by that fast.

by wanabedrsean

I forgot most memmory manufacturers dont make the actual chips that go on the dimms or simms but micron and samsung do manufacture the actual chips.

by wanabedrsean

post stand for Power On Self Test so you dont really want to say preBIOS you want to say prePOST BIOS stand for Basic Input Output System And the video card posts before the motherboard. I hope this helps feel free to email me and have a wonderful day

by tyson44

ati all in wonder radeon it is... but there is something wrong because i could only run the computer with no accelerated functions under the display performance... i've done every troubleshoot possible except replace the card... but i dont want to do that...

by bv2

check your bios and make sure it's set to post to agp first, put settings on auto for agp driving control, etc. - truth be told, though, it sounds like some bad RAM on your video card.

by wanabedrsean

RADEON display driver version 4.12.3056 or higher should also be used when using a system based on the VIA KX/KT-133 chipset.
if you are not using the current VIA Chipsets drivers for the KX/KT-133 chipset you can get the driver here
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

by shanghai sam

i have version 4.13.7075...and i have the latest 4in1 drivers as well, i dont think i need any of the other drivers on that page..

it should be running at 2x, i disabled 4x and intalled the via driver in turbo mode..

i also checked the microsoft knowledgebase... all it said was if u have display problem set the acceleration lower, so it can be the OS cant handle full acceleration?

by chris hirst

The message is from your video card as it appears before the POST, usually you would see info on card type and memory. These ideas are mainly educated guesses:
The 166 samsung/micro DDR bit is likley to be an incorrect clock setting on either videocard or motherboard, DDR memory runs at 266MHz (2 x 133 FSB) so a FSB of 166 is not a supported speed (may be the source of some of your problems).
The NTSC bit as someone already stated stands for 'Never Twice Same Color' (US TV standard) so you would assume the card has TV output capabilities.
More info may be found on ATI,s web site www.ati.com
Chris

by shanghai sam

well i didnt know the video card had its own bios, but now i do,

the 111-73701-102 is the bios part number
the memory type is DDR SGRAM / SDRAM i know micron makes sdram so i guess samsung made the sgram

the NTSC is the video standardi dont see the other info listed but i doubt its a problem

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