The Evolution Truth

...but I AM in my room, and I'll POST until my CMOS battery dies if I wanna!

If 42 is the answer, then the QUESTION must be: if ProtiusX & jdclyde add together their combined scores from their best respective results from the most generous version of the Stanford Binet test then multiply by 21, what is the sum?

Honestly, I am sorry for sullying what must have been a much-needed haven from the inanity I only glimpsed at the EL thread. I will be sure to waste my figurative breath there when I want to blow off steam, and keep the refutations of religion more succinct, and jovial, if I feel compelled to express myself here on The Evolution Truth. Those were examples of some of my best attempts at humour. I will be watching anxiously for your permission to leave my room and come back to this thread ;)

maybe they wanted to be sure the soldiers were healthy, so they drilled holes in the soldiers, just in case any evil humours needed to be drained? y'know, like they used to use leeches to do to the civilians...

IS STAY IN YOUR ROOM you naughty little boy! :D

This is a serious forum and there is absolutely no room for HUMOR in any form. :p

Currently we are seeing the "Evolution Lie" and "Why am I voting for GWB" getting together and attempting to take over all of TR as they between themselves start becoming Self Aware, :) Then add Maxwell's "Whats your Favorite Song" has started to join in to totally wreck things. :(

This is a very serious subject and needs appropriate consideration as instead of seeing some form of AI emerging we are currently seeing a split personality not only becoming Self Aware but attempting to take over the place. :D

Incidentally if you are really in your room you'll be posting for a very long time particularly if you do not turn off the computer that way you'll never know that the CMOS battery has really gone flat and it will not really matter to you either. Will it? :D

I'll be keeping my EYE on you! :)

Col ]:)

Might pick up some tips...

Ye gods, Col, I hope the trailer wasn't hit WITH the Mercedes on it!! You didn't say anything about being IN A DITCH on the way down. What the hell are the White Mice doing not protecting the one and only Mouse King?? This has got to be looked into.

Gret

PS: Glad to hear you both got back in one piece!

Neil, I consider our behaviour to be extremely decorous, so there! And those of you who think otherwise are just . . . are just . . . are . . . well, I'm simply too polite to say it!!!!

Col, it's the BOOTS that make the stomping sound on my roof, not the paws. And as you know, the mice have specially made boots for their paws rather than feet, so they're both STOMPIER and LOUDER. I'd have thought that, as the Mouse King, you would be aware of what kit was issued to your troops. Or don't they even let you know that these days?

Gret

My Dad used to call me Messie Jessie...

OK, you may come out of your room, but ONLY if you promise to BEHAVE!! Whether you behave well or poorly is your choice and I leave it entirely up to you.

So... if you're in your room, and your only clock is on the computer, and your CMOS battery dies, and you're still posting on TR... will your internal clock make a sound? Will anyone care? :p

wrong thread!!! :D

We both walked away unhurt so the mice must have been looking after "She Who Must Be Obeyed" and myself. :D

A semi which we had passed about 8 times ran us off the road the driver was more than likely a bit tired as he would drive past us like a 747 on take off and then 100 K up the road stop for quite a while, we would then pass him while he was stationary and he seemed to take some sought of dislike to constantly seeing us traveling along at a nice quite 100 KPH. :)

Apparently he must have thought that he was driving fast and once he passed up he should never have seen us again which would have been perfectly OK with me as he would constantly fail to allow enough room before pulling back to the right side of the road and run us off in an effort to avoid him. The last time the side of the road was soft and the trailer wheels got stuck in the mess and along with the increase in speed caused by the draft of the truck created a few problems with the trailer wanting to go one way the car increasing in speed going down a hill and when the trailer hit the road again it snapped back to the other side and got a good rocking motion going pulling the rear of the car all around the place. I knew that the worst possible thing to do was even think about touching the brakes so I just tried to allow it to ride out as the speed slowed down unfortunately we ran out of road so I had to stomp on the brakes rather than run the risk of being pushed over the side. At that point the trailer snapped around dragging the rear of the car with it and we proceeded to leave the road backward at an excessive rate. :(

The entire damage was one less rear bumped bar on the Ford it was all plastic so no big loss there, the exhaust system was gone from the middle muffler back, the fuel tank was pushed up as one of the holding straps got a bit bent out of shape, a broken fuel cap and the boot opened. I don't think I did find all of the tools that got spat out even. :)

The Mercedes on the other hand did suffer some damage the rubber overrider on the rear bumper ripped that alone will cost more than the repairs to the Ford. :p There was some minor paint damage but that was nothing as if I recondition the car it will all be repainted anyway but not a single dent. :D

The only real problem was in getting out as it was all sand but a bit of grader blade solved that problem and we just unhitched the trailer drove the car onto the flat and the dug the trailer out where the ramps had dug in and then pulled the trailed around hitched it up again and continued on our merry way although quite a bit slower this time. ;)

Really over all quite an uneventful trip although "She Who Must Be Obeyed" is now insisting that she doesn't ever want to drive out of Brisbane again and that all truckers are dangerous. :)

I've been telling her that there where some parts left in Melbourne that are far to heavy to freight so we'll have to drive down and pick them up, she just attempted to kill me with a carving knife and told me in the most polite terms that if I wanted them I could get them myself! :D

Her Mercedes does need a good run so I suggested taking that at which point she exploded and hid the keys for her car, now if it is in the way I have to get her to move it so I can get another car out. :D

Col ]:)

Just don't bother to worry me with trivialities, they just let me know how they are getting on and what is happening. :D

Col ]:)

The Evolution Lie and Why an I voting for GWB are taking over and allowing postings to end up on the wrong thread. :)

It's really a miracle at all if one posting ends up on the right thread. :D

Col ]:)

But more importantly if we allow him out of his room he will not have access to the computer will he? ;)

Col ]:)

Are you planning on taking it to the "Evolution Lie" limit or the GWB record??? :^O Over 100 posts now. Are you getting the feeling you may have created a monster. Bet all the bible thumping "Creationists" are doing a slow burn, which of course, was your full intent. Oooohhh, nasty.

Dawg ]:)

My Dad and I are too much alike. And I don't think TR is quite ready for TWO of me running around on here, upsetting people's apple carts.

And if we let him out of his room, we'd have to hire a babysitter/nanny or something as I'm sure he's only about 12. :p

That sort is spelled S-O-R-T not "sought" unless this is some sort of weird Australian spelling.

Dawg ]:)

** The ones who DIDN'T come down from the trees were smarter. But we threw rocks at them and used their bodies to setup corporations and governments all over the world.**

I'm still attempting to come to terms with all the weird American Spelling of what is supposed to be English. it sort of soughts out the different cultures. :D

Col ]:)

I normally don't enjoy humour (at least it's funny to me) as much as this, but you asked me to PROVE to you that I have a sense of humour, and now it's like a challenge, so I'm able to enjoy it.

Anyway, HAL, you're correct and what's more, I'm pretty sure I was invited to leave my room PRECISELY because I had let it slip that my computer is in my room.

Anyway, I just got a data entry job at a software company recently, and the best prospects there seem to be in providing telephone tech support, and I was hoping to glean nuggets of more long-term career wisdom when I joined TR, and stumbled across PompousX's nonsense instead. I will try to be a better neighbor beginning now, but I cannot claim to be as ironic as what I have seen on this thread. For the most part, the same observations just don't amuse me.

You'll find various different listings for the technical topics and you should find these quite informative, this however is under the Miscellaneous listing and is more like "Water Cooler" talk where some of us like to come to blow off a bit of steam or just relax away from the rush of general IT and the pressures that go with it. ;)

There is also the Technical Q & A section which you'll find interesting as some of us tend to spend a bit of time there in an attempt to help others although no one manages to spend as much time there as "The Chas" who seems to answer every question as soon as it is posted and always seems to be correct with what information is given in the question. If you spend a bit of time there you'll also find that what someone often asks is the wrong question and when they close them off with a fix for their problem you' ll be able to find how they went wrong in asking the original question. ;)

Actually I think I said something about not being allowed to leave your room so you could keep posting but I'm nasty. :D

Col ]:)

You want that on a red velvet cushion or a silver platter, Col?

Gret

Sorry Dawg, can no do. The Mouse King and Queen were in Melbourne for less than a day, and I considered myself privileged to get an audience for an hour with Their Majesties.

Anyway, Their Noblenesses don't have to know how to spell, because they have their sekkertaries to do it all, don't they?

Being of a much humbler order than Their Serene Highnesses, I can, however, tell you that SORT in Australian means putting a group of objects in a particular order, while SOUGHT in our fair language means looked for (past of SEEK). I hope that answers your question, at least in part!

Gret

What happens when a lawyer takes Viagra???

Answer: He gets taller.

Dawg :^O

Now if I could only find out what the question was. Oh yeah, I remember now; what's the meaning of life??? Well 42 is still the answer.

Dawg ]:)

Actually, the tech stuff seems to be way over my head. And there's just so much of it, I'm not sure I'll bother sorting through to find any that does make sense. See, I'm just working on A+ certification, and need to study before I take that test, and I don't see evidence of a lot of fellow noo-Bs here.

I've enjoyed lurking here the past few days. I recognize several names here as the ones that said true things about the roles of science and religion on that evil thread whose name we dare not speak ;)

When the second tube of KY ran out. :D

Now just finish off so I can hobble away and get some rest. :p

Col ]:)

I think you've got that a bit twisted, Col. The White Mice already KNOW the question to which the answer is 42, because they were just about to ask it when their computer, Earth, was destroyed by the Vogons.

So as I see it, although everyone THINKS the question is "what is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" it's not really, because the answer to that is a John Cleese film.

And that's why S.B.Fast and Co had to make a new computer Earth so the White Mice could ask their question properly this time.

Now, don't interrupt me for a little while, please, as I'm going to have a shot at the question myself, to see if I come up with 42.

I'm pretty sure it's accessible gematrically if I try hard enough.

Gret

Nah, it was the Geeks; er, sorry, Greeks! Socrates and all that. (And it made him drink hemlock. Something very fish about pollies).

Col, the Greeks invented democracy, because it's a Greek word. I don't know about them inventing pollies, because democracy means "government by the people for the people."

That meant everyone was for himself (no females in government then, even in Greece); you know, no parties and the like. When they voted, everyone just dropped a black or white stone in a large jar to indicate yes or no, and that was all.

That was in Athens, of course, but I can't remember what they did in Sparta. Blimey, we're going back several centuries here to when I was at school! You think I can remember that long?? Never!

Anyway, I do remember the Spartans were different and even had Equality, which disgusted the Athenians no end. I don't think any of the slaves were in on this democracy thing; it may have been government by the people for the people, but the slaves of both cities weren't recognised as people.

Now you go and study up your high school Greek History! I've done my bit!

Gret

And ARMAGEDDON itself means "Mount Megiddo", from Hebrew "har" = mount or mountain, and "mageddon" the name of a proper place, Megiddo.

Which means the apocalypse will take place there, I suppose. Well, with the Palestinians and the Israelis already at one another's throats, it doesn't look we've too long to wait now, does it?

That has an answer of 42 with advanced Trigonometry. :D

As I remember it the White Mice built a computer called Deep Thought which after several million years came up with the answer {42} and then provided the plans for a far more advanced computer that the White Mice built to find the question. This was the thing that was destroyed by the Vogans just prior to it finishing its computations. :)

But it has been a very long time since I either read or saw HHG and am looking forward to seeing the new release. I wounder just how they will portray the "Infinite Improbability Drive" that one should be interesting and will they keep the explanation of what happened to its inventor after the best brains in the universe proved that it couldn't exist so a undergrad student came up with the answer to the problem and after he was awarded his prize he was killed and hung on the gates of his learning establishment {It only goes to show that no one likes a SMART ARSE!} :D

But before you attempt the Advanced Trig could you first draw up my Astrology Star Chart and make the predictions for the next decade. If you do that I can guarantee that you'll never have a home visit by your friendly Gynecologist again. :p

Or better still you could give the problem to your students to work out now that would really be an attempt to warp their little brains wouldn't it? :)

Col ]:)

The natural base of the universe is 13!

Neil

No, it doen't show 'til the 29th. I'm still not convinced that I should see it as I was brought up on the radio show, then the book and then the TV. To me, HHGG is a cultural icon and I think that someone (Hollywood, who eles?) might be f**king it bigtime.I do say "might" but I'm afraid.

I think that there may be too many big things lost but - most importantly - all of the subtle English stuff will be discarded in favour of effects.

I'm not sure that I can cope with Ford Prefect from Brooklyn and, no offense, black but PG must triumph. The character no longer fits the name. ZB has only one head. Arthur Dent is probably well cast but Trillian - the jury is out. The voices, Alan Rickman as the voice of Marvin, Stephen Fry is the obvious British choice for the book - those castings are probably divinely inspired. But Humma Kavula? WTF!!! and Who TF???

As a prelude to seeing the the movie next weekend.

I do hope I'm not going to be TOO angry at what I think they might do to it!

Neil

I can just see it now Marvin being downright friendly no sunglasses which turn black at the first signs of panic and worst of all the inventor of the Infinite Improbability Drive being allowed to live because they can not use the word ARSE! ;)

And that poor reincarnated animal always dieing whenever the Infinite Improbability Drive is getting used will never be allowed on US TV as it is way too violent and mind warping for the watchers. :)

But the Texas Chainsaw Massacre will be perfectly OK to watch uncensored. :D

Col ]:)

But instead of talking Democracy we where talking Politician's which is a slightly different ball of wax. The Roman Empire followed the Greek type very closely and may even have stolen several of the ideas from the Greeks but I'm not aware of any Greek Politician's existing the Greeks where much more of a Democracy that anything since as the people {well the free males anyway} got to vote on things but since that time we have had people appointed either directly or latter by vote of the people to represent them which isn't in the Greek form of Democracy at all. :(

Perhaps it is just the word getting twisted for a few peoples best interests and a mass brain washing of the general population to make them think that they are in control. Now days there is only one certainly when you vote no matter who wins it will be a Politician which just maybe isn't such a good idea. :D

Col ]:)

Directly through the Peer Listings I just might be able to point you to a different forum that may be of some benefit to you.

It is far more user based and not at all on the higher IT levels that TR is although I'll always try to help you out where possible.

Col ]:)

They now randomly change the pointers that form the link chain for posts, so that posts previously made, and now being responded to, may link to a discussion other than the original.

I rather like it; it gives TR that "Through the Looking Glass" feel.

I quite literally got shoved through a plate glass window.

And then, she had the nerve to tell me that I would pay for its replacement out of my allowance. To which I replied, "Oh, you mean I'm going to start getting one?"

It's trying to get new genetic material crossing over between threads. It believes that if it gets some of Maxwells posts then it will be able to break free from TR's control.

And, by extension, macro-evolution?

Does ippirate know about this?

The Greeks actually had this figured out a long time ago.

a Silver Platter borne on a Red Velvet Cushion.

Seems only fitting for a King.

He hasn't been seen for a while, now.

Do you think that he's OK? Maybe THE THREAD has silenced him for its own reasons.

I still think that if I feed EL some of Oz's better posts I can destroy its internal structure but it could be too big a risk. It might just increase its mutation rate and by tomorrow it could have escaped into the Pentagon's computer and SkyNet would be born.

Being down under maybe the Mouse King and Queen might survive. Not being sufficiently of a nordic persusion you'll probably make it too, Gret. For some cheery reading try Nevil Shutes "On the Beach"

Dawg

I sense a conspiracy to get me out of the forum, but I don't mind, I need to use this TechRepublic to become more productive, not to bash my head against logical fallacies. I've added you to my contacts, you should be hearing from me shortly.

Trustee from the Tool Room was brilliant. :)

Now if only I could get all those miniature machine tools I'd naturally want them to be bigger but I could live with a 2 Foot bed lathe and one of those nifty little milling machines. ;)

The way he describes how things are made is absolutely fantastic even when he describes the hydraulic stuff almost makes me want to start playing with it again but only on the small stuff not the really massive machinery.

The Autobiographical book about the construction of the Vickers R 101 Airship was also brilliant but as he was working with Barnes Wallace what else could the book have contained? It showed just how not to design and build something and how a small firm like Vickers could do as good a job if not better on a very tight budget as the almost unlimited one that was thrown at the R 100 and just how the Bureaucratic Red Tape killed off the whole project through stupidity. :)

It's a pity that so many innocents died during what was nothing more than a Political Stunt. And just how Bureaucrats can override the designers and order something to go when the designers are unhappy with the current development of the project.

The way he described Airspeed was also another brilliant piece of writing. Particularly the bit about the two German Pilots who they employed to fly their first glider and how they where forced back to Germany only to latter return flying bombers to do even more damage.

Col ]:)

But if I can be of any help I'm always willing the only thing that I have against you is "WHERE WHERE YOU WHEN THE EVOLUTION LIE WAS RUNNING OUT OF CONTROL WITH THE BIBLE BASHERS RUNNING AMOK?" :D

Just joking on that one but I did get a good laugh out of some of your responses there even if very few did get to read them and the main protagonists didn't respond. :(

Col ]:)

Col, I never did get as far as advanced Trig (only did basic; sorry), and I don't actively teach Math or anything like it.

I think once you've got to the age of being a "mature age student", the brain doesn't automatically switch on to math very easily! And I promised my students at the beginning of the year that I'd use as little math as I could get away with when teaching Astronomy and Cosmology.

Astrophysics, which requires quite a lot, I try to do only in very small bits, as necessary, and as for Quantum stuff, I steer clear of that completely as I'm pretty certain they'd all fry their brains good and proper if I tried visiting THAT on them!

Neil, I'm going to the HHG film anyway, simply out of sheer curiosity, although I don't hold out any high hopes. The problem is that, when the Yanks get hold of British humour, they absolutely screw it up completely, simply because they don't understand it.

As a backstop, I've still got my old video version (haven't got around to getting the DVD yet) of HHG, so once I've seen the film, I can always put the video on as soon as I get home, and see the REAL HHG, unmutilated!

Now why don't the Brits do a new feature film of HHG? Why do we always have to leave it to Hollywood and the Yanks to screw up everything British? They did it with Dr Who as well, so I'm only glad that at least it's the good ol' Beeb that's decided to resurrect the DW series. Not all is lost (to the US) yet!

Col, the only reason I mentioned the Greeks -- and democracy along with 'em -- was because everyone seemed to be determined only to talk about the Romans and their Senate, as if there was nothing else of the type before them.

Well, of course this just isn't true. Pollies have always been around, perhaps not in the guise we recognise them today, but nevertheless, still there.

All the old civilisations had 'em; it's just that in most cases where this happened, the civilisations in question had other leaders, like kings and emperors and pharaohs and what have you.

In those days, they were usually absolute monarchs of their type, so any pollies they had were always sufficiently in the shadows as to be almost non-existent.

By the time it got to Rome, the Romans decided to only have a republic, right from the word go, governed by a Senate.

Of course, while it lasted for a few centuries, it kind of went belly up once Cilius Juicer came along -- sorry, Jilius Sousa; bloody hell, Sulius Jeesa! F**k it all, Hamlet! -- you know the one I mean, Col -- and made himself emperor all over again. Which was why the Roman Empire fell, of course.

Anyway, JC was bloodily assassinated, and that was that, except the next guy, Octavius, I think, went and made himself emperor in any case. Idiot!

Okay, here's a right old challenge for you, Col. Research ANY assassination in history of some famous figure (like JC), including kings and emperors and pharaohs, going way back as far as you like, and you'll always find some pollies lurking in the background. They may not have been called that in them thar days, but it's still what they WERE.

Pollies were always wanting more power, so they got rid of the person ahead of them to achieve this. These days it's not always assassination as in "to kill", but slander and libel often achieve the same ends.

Pollies, like everything else, evolved, usually from viziers, and king's favourites, or army captains and the like. Well, at least I've got the right thread for evolving pollies -- the evolution truth!

So there were pollies before Rome; they just used different names, that's all.

Golly, I remember "On the Beach". And -- wait for it -- when the film was shot here in Melbourne way back when, 1964 (supposedly the year everything ended) was still in our future!

Oh what a merry time that was! Ava Gardner, Gregory Peck and all the rest of 'em descending here on poor little colonial Melbourne somewhere in the south of the Great Unknown Continent!

I'll put on a Viking helmet to disguise my very un-nordic looks, dawg, and pretend I'm a Valkyrie rattling around the sky on a horse! Golly, a bit unhip that now!

I'll have to pretend to be a Rhine Maiden instead, or any of the other characters in the Nordic myths and then I can have a part in the conflagration too!

The Mouse King and Queen can then start to fix everything up again, from the start as was intended, without the rest of us getting in their way.

I'm hoping that it's not going to be a disaster but it is a serious cultural icon to me and they screw with it at their peril.

On the plus side, Stephen Fry would have been my no. 1 choice for the Voice of the Book and I can't fault Alan Rickman for Marvin. I was half expecting the likes of Eddie Murphy as Ford Prefect and it still might be that bad! The actor set for Arthur Dent is a very good wimp so that's OK.

My real problem is the new stuff - Humma Kavala? apparrently a Douglas Adams creation, so? They also have more - it would seem - on the love triangle Zaphod - Trillian - Arthur. WTF??!!?!* And on "how far will Zaphod go to get what he wants?" somebody missed the point, here.

Time will tell...

Neil :D

"Trustee From the Toolroom" will always symbolize for me, what Duty, Honour and Obligation are all about. Nevil Shute Norway, to call him by his full name, must have been one hell of a man. I know I would have enjoyed meeting him but as to whether he would have enjoyed meeting me, is highly doubtful. He certainly rates high on my list of favorite authors.
It's strange we're talking about Nevil Shute as I have just finished rereading his "In The Wet", a book that Australians should like reading and "So Disdained", another interesting read. Anytime I pick up one of his books its like revisiting old friends. I've forgotten how many times I've read the Trustee, Col but I feel it's getting time for another go. Thanks for reminding me.

Dawg

Other books of his you might enjoy:
Pastoral
The Breaking Wave
The Far Country
An Old Captivity
No Highway
Ordeal
plus anything else by him.

If you enjoy Shute you might like reading Nicholas Monserat's "The Cruel Sea" or Warren Tute's "The Cruiser"

"If you can read, you'll travel the world and never be lonely."

Dawg :)

Because bashing is always considered an aggressive act and the wile-eyed preachers who pound their Bibles while preaching fire and brimstone are called Bible-thumping morons or Bible thumpers. I mean, that's what Americans who aren't Bible thumpers call them. I understand that most thinking people have escaped to Australia now, and I don't mean to contradict, just sharing my amusement about the idea of bashing Bibles, really.

btw, who'd like to join me in disrupting threads on Christian pages with theological debates about topics that are properly the province of science?

Heh-heh.

Seriously, anybody know any fora of Christian ilk? I'm feeling unusually belligerent lately.

And try to read them all at least once a year along with everything by Richard Back both are very good authors though they come from totally different backgrounds ands write about different things.

If you want to read something really good Xavier Hubert's Poor Fellow My Country is a good read although you'll only tackle it once because it is a very heavy read, not that the subject matter is all that hard but the book is just plain heavy and gets tiresome trying to hold it from a very early stage. There are only several thousand pages so it takes a bit of time to get through but is a very interesting read. I think he started out trying to write a short story and just couldn't find a suitable ending so kept on writing until the table with the manuscript on collapsed.

Col ]:)

Mathematics provides for so many wonderously delightful & serendipitous discoveries in real life, that it would not be surprising if Adam so "discovered" the "answer" to be "42" in a fictional realm.

Neil, since writing that last post, I have watched a review of HHGG with two very good film critics I admire and respect very much. Out of a rating of 5, she gave it three and a half, he gave it four.

Okay, the review was only about five minutes all up, and the scenes that were shown were probably very selective, but I found out a few things I didn't know before.

Douglas Adams himself wrote the screenplay. I can't remember how long he's been gone, but that's got to be a plus.

Douglas Adams also produced the film. Another plus.

If DA had so much input, then you'd have to expect a reasonable amount of "Britishness" to have been retained. This is indeed so, especially where good ol' British humour -- or perhaps DA humour in particular this time -- is concerned. The book is followed pretty closely.

DA must have approved of the actors and/or voice overs where appropriate. Another plus.

I did squirm a bit when the trailer that was shown had Zaphod with only one head, but my son quickly reminded me that he began with one head and grew two later.

And DA, as usual, must have agreed to this too. So I figured it was just the selection chosen, and am therefore quite ready to wait and see the whole film before I start pointing fingers.

Ford is black with an (awful) American accent. At first, I squirmed again, then re-thought it. Ford, being an alien, could be anything. And once again, DA must have concurred.

I wasn't particularly keen on Marvin at first, but I guess that's only because I visually remembered the first Marvin in the original TV series. The voice, of course, is okay; it's just the appearance at first that's a bit off-putting!

So all in all, I'm going to wait until I see the film before making any judgement. Anyway, I've still got my old video of the TV series, which I'll replace with the DVD asap, so I won't be losing out really.

I'll let you know AFTER I've seen the film what I think of it then!

Gret

After reading around a bit myself then the only problems that I think might really mar it are, as you say, the Ford Prefect character. Despite being an alien, he was the "best friend" of a wimpy provincial Englishman and for that to carry, he HAS to be "English" also. Still, at least he wasn't played by Eddie Murphy or Chris Tucker.

We shall see...

That's quite alright; you're in great company.

Quite frankly, I'm not liking what I'm reading here re. the casting.

I'm now torn between curiousity & a desire not to be deeply disappointed. To see, or not to see; that is the question.

this thread is fun and it would be a shame to let it fade out so precipitously without having a bit more fun. I'm not suggesting we let it grow to the proportions of EL or GWB but a few hundred more posts would be justified in comparison.

Dawg :^O

There is a little-known secret among the elders of most Christian faiths about the Dead Sea Scrolls, and their contents BEFORE being edited and released to the public. Turns out, at the wedding at Canaa (sp?), just after Jesus turns the water into wine, the first comment is nothing about the last wine of the evening being better than the first. That observation was made eventually, but the first words from Mary's mouth were "Good Lord, there may just be hope for you yet!" Of course, spoken in Aramaic, the conversational language of that time and place.

In fact, there were no "missing" years at all, Jesus just had puberty and early adulthood, the quality of which left the Vatican with a bit of a blush! It turns out that water into wine had been done many times before as a prank, and it was only as he neared thirty years of age that he tired of his mischievous ways and decided to give a try to being helpful. Fat lot of good it did him! First chased out of his home town by a vicious mob, curing leprosy and raising the dead on the lam all the while, and eventually his treasurer and second in command sells him out for a sack full of rock.

Whats the new BBC Dr Who like?

It will be arriving here soon but as yet there is no current release date only the odd trailer being shown which looks a lot like a major Hollywood production instead of the older series. :)

Col ]:)

The BBC series has just hit Canada, first 3 or 4 episodes. So far its done a good job of bridging the original cheesiness/fun factor and modern computer graphics. I like the actor, but there is a rumour that he has quit the series after the first season.

James

Col, so far, it's been OK. Very much different from the original but as there were half a dozen different takes on the Doctor then I think another variation is not such a difficult thing to accept as the rape of Hitchhiker by Disney about which I will not talk again. Hollywood is SO lucky that I am not a nuclear state!

Back to the Doctor, Christopher Eccleston is good, although he WAS going to take some getting used to, now he's giving it up! He's a more of a happy Doctor - every time things were really in peril, we see the Doctor laughing, or at least with a big grin on his face. Tom Baker, my favourite, was famous for smiling at the most inopportune time. (He, Tom, had huge teeth and bulging eyes as well, though). I'm not too sure about Rose - his "assistant" - though the assistants never did amount to much. This one's a little less two-dimensional than most previous and isn't too much to take. She has an apallingly stupid mother and a boyfriend and we could easily lose them from the plot! She's reasonable eye-candy.

The shows have plenty of humour - farting aliens take over the British Cabinet in one episode - and all in all I've found it fun to watch, with some campy effects then blend right in to the original series. Special effects are good and we have lost the very dated feel of tghe originals but that had to go and even I can accept that. I think they are pushing things in the right direction.

The first couple of episodes were one-offs but now we're back into the serial mode with each episode ending in mortal peril for someone. Much better. The Daleks are back this weekend and a bit sexed up - but not too much different from the original.

All in all, it's not high-brow and not subtle and never was (unlike HHGG)! Worth a watch, at least. It's open season on another of my cultural icons but this one - at least - Disney hasn't got any where near!

Neil

they're fun to watch.

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The Queen of the White Mice has advised me that a contingent of her very best are at this very moment diligently searching for him; and, as they are quite hungry, she expects that he shall not go unfound.

Where you been? And what's with the weird use of the word "sought" where "sort" belongs?

CRT's emit visible radiation, no cancer risk, don't wait for the Empiricists to "confirm" that. They can, however, rot your brain if you read...whatever, I'm not even going to bother teasing those saps any more.

I agree, deepsand, that Truth=Fun, Lie=not fun. Posting to that thread is like trying to tease a dead dog or catch a legless grasshopper. The sadistic pleasure of a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent was totally ruined for me by the 3 Stooges' failure to answer any of my barbs.

Absolutely has woken MrMiami.

3,000 here we come!

I don't think that I can stop it, Col. Maybe if we seed it with some posts from Oz, it will implode. That's all I can think of.

Neil :D

This Little Black Duck. :D

Col ]:)

But at the very least you'll be getting eye strain. :D

Personally LCD's give me a headacke so my LT has to have a TFT screen I think it is something about the refresh rate of the LCD's or maybe it is just the narrow veiwing angle. ;)

Anyway do you want to be the first to be exposed to the "Caring [lack} Profession" to attempt to diagnose your problem? They'll call you a winging BASTARD and just get back to work and stop complaining and only after thay have seen another 100,000 cases will they even start to think that there may be a problem. ;)

Been there done that and I don't want to ever see one again. :D

Col ]:)

If you do not imediatly cease and desist I'll throw you out of your room and never allow you back in. ;)

That monster that goes under the name of the evolution lie is way out of control and growing at a rate that is totally unexpected. It's been going for months now and is showing no signs at all of stoping even though a lot of the main protaginasts have dropped out in discust. ;)

If you keep this up not only will you be refused admintance to your room ever again but I'll be sending my White Mice to pay you a visit! :D

Col ]:)

EL has been officially sanctioned by the Queen of the White Mice Herself.

It's part of Her plan to accelerate the search for the Ultimate Question, for which the Answer is "42," so as to find it before the Vogens get here and destroy Earth, which would require forcing poor Slartybartfast out of his well deserved slumber so as to reproduce the ultimate computer.

I think I'm going to have to watch the movie, and I think I'm going to have to read the book first, then I can understand the three tired jokes you all keep repeating! Bollocks or something, like I don't have enough to do.

I predict a short few exchanges with MrMiami, after which I will provoke the Beast no more, OK?

btw, did I correctly understand the meaning of bumorifice? How you Brit types cuss dirtier AND sound more refined doing it is a true wonder of nature.

Appalling Disneyfied travesty of a movie. Tell you what, we'll make a movie of the Alamo in Shepperton and John Inman (mega-camp British actor) can play Davy Crockett. That's about where we are coming from. The effects would be good because Shepperton is where James Bond is made but the rest of the movie would be absolute garbage.

Read the books.

Synopsis: The Earth and Mice and 42.

The Earth was created as an organic supercomputer to formulate the question for which the answer is "42". The Earth was designed by Deep Thought, a supercomputer created by the White Mice to answer the question of "Life, the Universe and Everything". Deep Though came out with the answer "42" but was not powerful enough to formulate the question.

White Mice are really hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings and are actually studying us.

Then the Earth got blown up to make way for a hyperspatial freeway.

Now, read on.

Neil :)

to your station of choice, and get the book.

Or, for $150, the DVD set.

PBS be damned. I don't care how "good" the programming is, it does not satisfy Constitutional requirements for federal expenditure.

Jessie seems to be too busy giving birth to send me to my room (or away from it!), and I've already had supper anyway, so forgive me the serious comment.

So seriously deepsand, I'm new and don't know my way around much. HAL9000 has given me some good info, but I'm still an amateur pursuing A+ certification because I'm really that much of a computer nooB. What's your professional specialty, or what other topics besides "Miscellaneous" do you frequent? I'd like to get acquainted with the people here [who were also the source of the interesting posts to the EL thread] by looking into what they do for a living and how they discuss that.

Neil, did you see the link I sent you in EL?