What was your first computer?
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by jimlp1
My firsr PC was an Apple IIe, yet I worked on IBM's all day at work. The two DOS's were confusing, so I returned the Apple IIe to the Bank. They sold it for what I owed on it. I then bought a "Computer Shopper" magazine, this was in the early 1980's, and it was huge. I bought all the necessary parts that I wanted from different suppliers, and assembled my own IBM-Compatible. The 1st one I built ran at 4.77 MHZ, that was fast back then. No hard-drive, just 2 5.25" floppy drives, ran DOS, had BASIC-A ROM chips on board, Monochrome monitor. I forget how much RAM.
Later I upgraded to a TIGER 286 motherboard, it ran at 8.MHZ and in TURBO mode about 12.0 MhZ. My friends and co-workers would come by to see my "CLONE", and they would usually buy it, I sold it and built another one better than that one. I bet I built 15 or 20 PC's since then for friends, family and business's. Now I'll tell ya I messed around with AMD motherboards and CPU's, I always had problems with these PC's.
What I have now? I gave Intel a chance, I have an Intel motherboard P4 ready, in mid-tower case, 425 watt power suplly, 1 gig of DDR-RAM, an Intel Pentium-4 with H-T, a 200 gig hard-drive, a CD-ROM, a DVD, and a 3.5" floppy. The MOBO has audio and video on board, but I'm running a GeForce FX-5500 AGP, and Windows XP-PRO.
The Intel Pentium-4 runs at 3.0 GHZ with a FSB of 800 MHZ, I play Unreal and Ghost Recon really well, even been on gamers networks to play on line. It's quite some different the 4.77 MHZ first PC I built back in the 80's.
by asktheom9
My first computer was when I lived in England UK. Around the late 70's. It was just a large keyboard which hooked up to the TV.... no monitor!
I programed simple games, budget spreadsheets and other stuff on it. It came with 'ping pong' game on it but that was about it.
by moran
The first computer I purchased was a TRS-80 that I bought from a Radio Shack store. It came with a tape recoder as its storage device. It cost around $500 that I recall.
I did all kinds of programming, recordkeeping, and text processing with it.
I had it for several years and replaced it with an IBM PCjr.
Although criticized by many, I felt that was a very good machine for its day and its price.
by jamesrl
I started off in university on a mainframe. One of my work terms,I used Dec terminals and a PDP 8. I used an Apple II clone belonging to a friend quite extensively - my first word processor.
I also used the first PC and the first Mac (and the first Compaq luggable) when they hit the scene.
But the first computer I bought with my own money came years later - it was an Apple Macintosh SE. I traded it months later for a Mac II. Shortly thereafter I bought a clone XT box and had two computers for many years. I even had a VGA A/B switch so I could use one monitor for two computers.
James
by emmbe1
What model was it?
Sinclair ZX 81
Where did you buy it?
Expensive Department Store
How much did it cost?
It hurt.
What kind of stuff did you do with it?
Print"Loop-the-loop"
How long did you have it?
1 year
What did you eventually replace it with?
TI-99A
What was urs?
Prior to the PC was CP/M
I owned a Royal Business Computer which had 128K of RAM 2 Floppy Drives and a printer. The processor was a Z-80 and the ensemble cost $500.
This was purchased in 1980-82 (don't remember the exact year)
I could run the WordStar word processor, PeachCalc spreadsheet, and dBase II relational database (2 work areas to relate).
I had this machine until 1987 and did all of my business work on it.
In 1987 I replaced it with an ACER XT which operated at the phenomenal speed of 10MHz (My Royal was a respectible 2.2 MHz)
The ACER had 768K of memory (the last 128 was relatively useless unless you were some sort of power user.) On that I had WordStar 4.0, dBase III+, and Lotus 123 Rel 2.01d.
These were truely workhorses and many of the functions were as fast as today's bloated systems.
by kerrykergan
by rhomp20029
My first one to work on was an IBM 1401 with 4K of storage. We did the payroll for the Pentagon civilians on that sucker back in 1962.
Now I have a PC with more storage than the big IBM Stretch 7090 computers that the Weather Bureau used and I carry it with one hand. Amazing how times have changed. I actually at one point worked on a computer that used vacuum tubes. Imagine the cooling that one needed.
I still remember the first PC I even used at all. It was a Tandy TR80 (?). The guy who owned it was trying to decide whether to stay with the Tandy or move to a Commodore or an Amiga. As soon as you bought one in those days it was out of date and you started saving for the next one you would buy. Some things never change. Right now I have a computer with an AMD Athlon 64 xp and now I read that they have the AMD 64 Dual core. At some point I will have to decide just how much computer I really need for what I use it for. Not into gaming so there is probably no need to go any further than I already have but I know I will keep looking anyway. What was that old saying about Big Boy's Toys?
by pfister1
It was an Osborne1 running CP/M. Ahhhh, here it is, http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html.
My parents bought it for me for around $1500. Using BASIC I programmed a mini-version 'centipede' and started on some business software for my cousin's liquor store. I had it for a couple of years before replacing it with several years of slacking before going back to school and then getting a real job.
by psomerset9
I bought an Osborne I from a mom-and-pop shop in 1979, a couple of months before IBM introduced its PC. It cost $1795. Originally, it had two 85 Kbyte 5-1/4" floppy drives, but I sprang for the double-density upgrade when it was offered a year or so later. I guess I'm just greedy, because I thought I needed the 185 Kbytes that the upgrade provided. I was without my computer for a couple of weeks while they worked on it in California.
I still have it! It sits in my garage. I pull it out every once in a while just to see how far we've come. Part of the reason it's still working is that I built a fan unit for it. It's made of printed circuit board material and hangs over the front of the unit and sucks air from the vent above the monitor.
Let's hear the details on your first computer:
What model was it?
HP Pavilion 6646c:
500Mhz AMD k-6 2
intergrated 8Mb generic video card.
4x CD-rw drive
2 USB ports(one of which only works half the time)
Where did you buy it?
Sam's Club(walmart)
How much did it cost?
More then the PC i built. somewhere around $700 give or take 100.
What kind of stuff did you do with it?
played starcraft, and a few other games, surf the internet, photo editing...that's about it.
How long did you have it?
i've had it about 7 years, and still do in fact.
need to replace CPU though...just have to get that stupid cooling fan off so i can.
What did you eventually replace it with?
The beast of a PC i built. Granted it's not top of the line but it's good enough for me...for now.
160Gb WD Hard drive(main)(i forget think it was about $70 before or after rebate)
20Gb quantom fireball(slave)(pulled from system that was hit by Lightning...a HP in fact)
Micro Advantage dual-layer DVD RW drive($90)
standard 52X CDROM (pulled from non-working PC)
128MB ATI 9200(AGP)(it was a gift from a friend)
512MB RAM ($80 or so)
2.8Ghz Intel P4(northwood) w/ 800Mhz FSB hyperthreading(of course)($177)
8 USB v2.0 ports(two of which aren't hooked up)
a firewire port(not hooked up)
integrated SiS 900 PCI fast ethernet adapter.
QDI superb 4FX-6AL Mobo ($25...gotta love Ebay)
the Tower itself was $60(has a cool carrying handle on top, and a see through removable side panel)(again ebay is great)
by sundaramgm
The model was Apple Macintosh SE
I bought it in India
About INR 65000
I was doing Desk Top Publishing and Graphic Designing
I got 20 MB HDD and 2 MB RAM and also an AppleTalk connector to my diskless node Apple Macintosh Plus
I was having it for 7 years or so.
I sold it off. But later I was using Power Macintosh and of course, now I am using IBM PCs.
by hmahdy
by xygnal
by trmartin
by browolf
by emparpar
It was about 1981 or so when I bought my first computer: a Northstar running CPM. I used it to deelop business software, writing programs in CBASIC and then in the earliest releases of C that became available.
I bought it in partnership with a friend with serious plans to create a Freight Forwarding Software System for resale to Freight Forwarders.
But that friend never did his share of the required software development, and so my dreams faded away as the months passed and he didn't do his share.
It was a great computer! CPM was great, as were the versions of CBASIC and C which I used. Using the Northstar, I became an expert in CBASIC and then in C, and that expertise helped me launch a wonderful 25 year career in the I.T. industry.
I don't remember any details about what happenned to that computer; I vaguely recall that we sold it to someone else about 18 months after bought it.
-- Eva
by frankmv
My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair 1000...that lovable little black wedge that held all of 2K RAM! I got it for $35 at K-Mart and I had a ball with it. The screen was unique in that it was a plastic membrane placed over the CPU, and each key had no less than 5 (yes, five) functions. Its language was Basic, and it came without a monitor (you hooked it up to your TV), disk drive, or printer.
I immediately bought a 16K RAM expansion module, a tape drive, and a small thermal printer for it. Total outlay for the peripherals, $120+...but I had a computer!
What was so ironic was that I was working on an IBM System 38 at the time, and I literally tried to construct programs on my TS 1000 that mimiced those I wrote in RPG on the S38...needless to say, I was not too successful - but I had fun trying!
I later graduated to a Commodore 64, then a 128, and finally a Mac.
Today...fuhgedabodit...I have several machines, including laptops, across different platforms (XP, Linux, and Mac).
Ahhh...for the good ol' days...
Frank
by roykendrick
When all of my friends were enjoying the Commodore 64, My father went out and decided on the TI99/4a which immediately isolated me. Eventually adding the Tape drive and voice synth. I used it for games but when TI decided to halt production, I had no choice but to learn TI-Basic so I could write my own games which eventually led to writing my own music and animation. It kept me entertained for many years until I received my next computer, an Apple IIe.
All I did with the Apple IIe was play games.
Those were the only two computers I ever owned from 1980 - 1990, then I made my first computer purchase. An Amiga500 which I had for many years. I had several Amiga 500 computers. I would hack the heck out of them with DYI upgrades and retro fitting into PC cases. I refined my music and animation skills as well as using it for games. Amiga, My most favorite computer I ever used, even to this day.
Sadly, when commodore went belly up I had to choose between a PC (clone) or a Macintosh. A pivitol moment for my unknown computing future. Once all of my Amiga stuff was sold, I had a whopping 500 bux to spend.
I was able to purchase a 486DX2 66 deesktop with color monitor, 1200 Baud modem, CD-Rom and 32MBs Ram. I learned MS Works on it with WFW 3.11 and did a lot of BBS'ing, also used it for games.
Then I went threw Windows 95, 98, 98se, NT, Pentium 60, Pentium II, III and now...
Here I am many years later with Pentium 4 Dells, dual AMD processors and an iBook.
Still playing games, still doing music, still doing animation and now video. No More BBS'ing, there is the internet. No More Dial Up, etc...
And yet, only 2 years ago, I found myself looking up Amiga stuff and purchsed (still updating) Cloanto's Amiga Forever, so now I can run an exact Amiga Clone on my modern day PC hardware. but this wasn't enough, last year I found myself bidding on Amiga 500 computers again. Now I have a fully functional A500 like when I was a kid. So while I was at it, I purchased and Atari 2600 with 86 cartridges. Can't seem to break free of the good old days.... I even went as far as building my own MAME cabinet.
As great as modern day computing is, there's a majic that exists in the good old days before virus, worms, and spyware took over the front pages of every computer magazine.
It feels good to time travel back to those days once in a while.
by mark miller
They didn't exist in the 8-bit days, best I can tell, but they certainly existed for 16-bit computers like the Atari ST, Amiga, and PC. They were on the Mac, too.
I can remember when I got my Atari Mega STe, the friggin' system disk had a virus on it, right from the manufacturer! It shocked me at first, but the virus turned out to be harmless. It was a "key" virus, one that stayed hidden until a "key" in some program activated it. No key had been found though, from what I read about it. There were hundreds of other ST viruses out there as well, but I never got them. The popular medium they spread around on were floppy disks, and inside programs. Another kind of virus for the ST were "link" viruses. They'd embed themselves inside otherwise legit programs. Every time you ran the program, it would infect another application, or copy itself to whatever floppy disk you had in the drive.
PCs had plenty of viruses too, similar in type to the ones that attacked Ataris. I'd imagine they were more numerous. I remember the Michaelangelo Virus made headlines on the nightly news. It was a "time bomb" set to go off on a certain date. There were a lot of fears about it totally wiping out hard disks on PCs, but as I remember when the day actually came nothing really happened.
I had a few Mac disks since I used Macs at school. One day I went over to a friend's house and used his Mac. When I used them later on someone else's machine, the antivirus software they had picked up a BUNCH of viruses on my disks. Yikes! Again the mode of transport was on floppies.
Viruses existed back then, but by and large they were pretty harmless. That's what I remember.
by rtracy77
My first computer was a you-have-to-build-it-yourself, by soldering in all parts, a CosMac Super ELF. With an 1802 uProcessor from RCA, 8K basic in ROM, TV modulator, ASCII Keyboard, and audio casset for program storage. CPU case was real wood with hex keypad and LED display.
Kaypro's, Epson, Amiga, Mac, VAX, HP, IBM PC's all came afterwards.
by kbrindle2002
What model was it?
Commodore 64
Where did you buy it?
Not sure, my parents bought it when I was in 4th or 5th grade
How much did it cost?
Again, not sure
What kind of stuff did you do with it?
oh man, I played Lemonade stand and Kings Quest for hours!!
How long did you have it?
I'm pretty sure it was about 3-4 years
What did you eventually replace it with?
A decked out IBM PC 286 with a 40MB RLL Hard drive ...I can not remember how much memory but god it was top of the line and I know it cost about $4000 in 80ish!!
by calithor
by barklessdog
My first computer was a Sinclair ZX80 that I built from a kit. It later became the Timex Sinclair 1000.
In 1982 I went to work for Circuit City and sold many of the Timex Sinclair 1000's along with the TI99/4a (my second computer), the VIC-20, C64 and the Atari 1200XL. In 1990 I bought my first "clone" - an AST 386SX and I got "on-line" with Prodigy.
Those were the GOOD OLE DAYS!
by shawn_r26
What model was it?
An AT&T 8088 (used...it was actually part of our high school's network for our computer club)
Where did you buy it?
I won it through a contest in high school
How much did it cost?
$0
What kind of stuff did you do with it?
Hardly anything...was only good for word processing. (I did installed DOS 5 on it though)
How long did you have it?
Maybe a year or two
What did you eventually replace it with?
A Packard Hell (I forgot the model, but it had DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 installed), then a HP Pavillion (I Think it was a 4440....it had a AMD K6 processor, 64 MB of RAM, a 4Gb hard drive with windows 98 (not second edithion) installed).
by dhays
Our first was the TI 99/4A , in fact we still have it and my Father-in-law still has two in the box unopened! I ran some basic programs, ran some games, never did spring for the floppy drive unit (as my FIL did), just used the cassette tape interface. We eventually replaced it with a Packard Bell 386SX-16, then with an HP P-90, now with an HP MCPC. Amazing how things have changed over the last twenty years or so. You can now buy a handheld calculator that would run circles around the TI 99/4A, in fact they probably would put the 386 to shame as well!
We had some of those IBM compatibles with no hard drive at work, some later models with a 10 M hard drive...
by jack-m
My 1st was a gift from my Dad for Christmas 1980.
A Timex Sinclair computer. Neither a Mac nor a PC it had a language all its own. If I remember correctly about all I could make it do was be a clock. Fascinating machine though. It sparked my interest and led to a long career in computers with the old Bell System and subsequent telecom companies.
by quagmire
Believe it or not:
Apple III
Introduced: May 1980
Released: Spring 1981
Price: US $3495 w/128K RAM
US $3815 with monitor
How many? 65,000 TOTAL (four year)
CPU: Synertek 6502A, 2.0 MHz
RAM: 128K, 512K max.
Display: Color composite video
16 colors at 280 X 192.
16 shades at 560 X 192
Ports: Two serial ports
External floppy port
Expansion: Four internal slots
Storage: Internal 143k 5-1/4 inch floppy
External floppy drive
OS: Apple SOS (Sophisticated OS)
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Osborne 1
Introduced: April 1981
Price: US $1,795
Weight: 24.5 pounds
CPU: Zilog Z80 @ 4.0 MHz
RAM: 64K RAM
Display: built-in 5" monitor
53 X 24 text
Ports: parallel / IEEE-488
modem / serial port
Storage: dual 5-1/4 inch, 91K drives
OS: CP/M
~STILL WORKS TOO!!
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Texas Instruments TI-99/4A
Released: June 1981
Price: US$525 (without monitor)
How many: 2.8 Million
CPU: TI TMS9900, 3MHz
Memory: 16K RAM, 26K ROM
Display: Video via an RF modulator
32 characters by 24 lines text
192 X 256, 16 color graphics
Ports: ROM cartridge (on front)
Data storage cassette
Audio/Video output
Joystick input
CPU bus expansion
Peripherals: Speech Synthesizer
Peripheral Expansion Box
Data storage cassette
300 baud modem
OS: ROM BASIC
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OH YEAH i also have a Working Commadore 64 in the orginal box still
Commodore 64
Introduced: January 1982
Released: September 1982
How many: ~17 million
Price: US $595.
CPU: MOS 6510, 1MHz
Sound: SID 6581, 3 channels of sound
RAM: 64K
Display: 25 X 40 text
320 X 200, 16 colors max
Ports: TV, RGB & composite video
2 joysticks, cartridge port
serial peripheral port
Peripherals: cassette recorder
printer, modem
external 170K floppy drive
OS: ROM BASIC
by annthieleman
What model was it? Model I, low serial number. Upgraded cassette to Stringy Floppy - wow! Stringy Floppy was still a tape drive, but used a high speed answering machine size tape.
How much did it cost? More than the 2 Dells on my desk now.
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Programming, early Usenet, Ham radio - send and and receive Morse Code and packet, initiating a divorce, speech synthesis and voice recognition.
How long did you have it? Did?
What did you eventually replace it with? Added 1 Model III, 2 CoCos (stacked RAM hardwired to 64K), 1 Micro CoCo, Model II w 4 8" drives, eventually a BSR 386 . . . Still have them all. And all issues of 80 Microcomputing magazine.
Those were the the days of tight code.
by em dubyah
I'm embarrassed to admit my first number crunching powerhouse complete with UBER graphics was the ((insert dramatic drumroll here))
THE ATARI 400!!
I swear that membrane keyboard was going to drive me nuts. I can't tell you how many times I tried to type out basic programs that I would see in Compute! magazine and only to screw it up a million times because it was IMPOSSIBLE to type on that thing!!
Complete with whopping 16K ram, and a 32K ROM (i think). Gawd I so don't miss that datasette recorder. Take 20 minutes to load a 48K game!
I thought I was on top of the world when I upgraded to the Atari 1200XL! Commodore 64 after that. Then the computer to end all computers: The Commodore Amiga. Damn if that computer wasn't the bomb! Puzzles me how something so good, winds up in the dust. Last I heard Gateway bought the Amiga tech stuff from somebody in Europe and haven't heard anything about it since.
Oh well.
Nowadays I have a small LAN in my apartment to geek on. Linux on some, Windows on others. Fun stuff.
Little did I know what I was stepping into when I got my first computer.
It's a bad hobby! Never stop spending money!!! Never have enough RAM, MHZ, or Gigabytes!
by fvrba
I don't remember the year I bought my first PC but the first one I ever owned was one my landlord had. He was fairly well off and very generous. He decided to buy a computer because he thought they looked like fun and for him that meant buying 2. I went over to play chess with him one day and he sent the second one home with me. Of course I was totally captured by the computer age from then on.
It was a Commodore 64. For the next year or so I purchased several games and books. I learned how to program in machine language (which I had no use for since I live in small town, rural Nebraska). When Commodore started shipping a 128, I bought one. Wow it was blazingly fast!!! 2 MHz. I still have this machine and it still works. We've set up a demo a couple times to show a short computer history.
Next came an Epson Equity I, my first IBM compatible. This one also was the lucky one to have me purchase my first hard drive. 10 MB I didn't know what to do with all the room. After a year or so I bought an Epson Equity I+. At this time I also sold my first new machine as a reseller. It was an Epson Equity II with an 80286 CPU.
Then came a Compaq 486/50. I was amazed at the speed with each new computer. I also got a fancy new 15" flat screen. It came with 2 MB of RAM which I then added 2 more for only $105 each, for a total of, hang on; 4! This was my first Best Buy purchase too. Altogether, almost $3,000 for this whole setup.
This was the end of the fun stuff. I started a computer business in 95 and new computers came regularly after the Compaq. The exhileration from one to the next just isn't the same anymore. It seems that everyone now just expects their new one to be faster and many times people are disappointed because they thought it would be so much faster than the old one. After about 1 GHz speed just isn't as apparent as it once was. Now everybody just wants to run an application or game better. Oh well, time marches on.
by elrsmith
by jkameleon
> What model was it?
Homemade
> Where did you buy it?
Purchased parts here and there, out of the Western Block during the Cold War. Critical technology export restrictions? Ha!
> How much did it cost?
It was affordable enough.
> What kind of stuff did you do with it?
Programming for fun & profit.
> How long did you have it?
If my memory serves me right, it must still be buried somewhere in the cellar. Maybe it even works.
> What did you eventually replace it with?
IBM PC, 16 MHz, a couple of 10 MB disk, I forgot how much memory it had. Must be a couple of 10 kilobytes. I used it mostly to run cross compilers & Borland Turbo C. Very good tool. Simple, fast, and reliable as a nail.
by jasonran
What model was it? Toshiba business class with a Z80 processor, 2 8 inch floppies and 16K of RAM. small (maybe 8 inch?) green screen and drives, all in a nice, neat little 125 pound package.
Where did you buy it? 1991
How much did it cost? Free, took it out of an old veneer lumber mill.
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Learned CP/M, computer basics and wrote a highly successful (just kidding) piece of software for printing images on a daisy wheel printer (using various letters and numbers. WOW!)
How long did you have it? 14 months
What did you eventually replace it with? IBM PC/XT with 640 KB of RAM and an AST Six Pack card which would actually keep the system time alive when the machine was turned off (DOS 4.3, buggy stuff).
by lindsayau
by dmanager
That was my first computer too. I can still hear the "Radar Rat Race" tune in my head.
From this machine i made a progression through all the later Commodore models.
by teekay
What model was it? ? Olivetti laptop with twin 720K floppy drives - no hard drive and forgotten memory
Where did you buy it? Somewhere in London UK in 1991
How much did it cost? 450 pounds sterling
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Word processing; spreadsheet and database design and development. Develop VB projects such as an automated ordering system for greengrocer olesalers.
How long did you have it? About ten years, but used in conjunction with a desktop purchased in late 1991 on return to Australia.
What did you eventually replace it with? Compaq Presario 2500.
by overcharge
Okay, my first computer was a kit--but it just didn't have much kick--no storage at all.
Second was a Osborne O-1a, which I had in pieces the first week to put in a DD board and screen pak--dual 160k and 104char on a 5" screen. I was dropping 3,000 pieces of mailouts per month (1st AF recruiter with his own personal computer in the office.)
Then I really got the bug--The Morrow portable, an NEC that did CPM, Dos, and NEC Basic (5.25&8"). Then I built a clone with a 10M hd. Then a Heath 386 (got Xenix with it.)Then a Sharp laptop....it just doesn't stop, does it?
by gkrew
by dwardell
My first machine encounter involved renting time on an IBM 360/20. It had 64k of "core," and used decks of cards or paper tape for input. We thought it was a wonderful machine.
We paid by the machine cycle and the clock hour (very expensive). It made sense to try hard for programs that would execute in fewer steps.
We wrote our own applications in what was called BAL--until someone sold us on the merits of this nifty thing called COBOL.
by deepsand
The Multi-function Card Machine was billed as being the jam proof; and, accordingly, it had very limited access to the card path, with the result that much time was spent with a card saw, trying to clear the frequent jams that actually occurred.
It very quickly became known as the "Mother f***ing Card Mulcher!"
by baldwinleo9
OK - this one I did not own, in fact I never saw it. At my high school, computer programming involved marking Hollerith cards with a pencil. Once a week (!) - talk about batch processing - the teacher would drive to the next county, pick up last weeks printout and cards, and submit this week's cards for processing. (we typically rotated 2 decks of cards). All for no extra money, not even milage (teachers were more dedicated back then, and just as poor).
Cost: N/A, Model: PDP 8, Use: education, Replaced with: N/A
by scohrs
It had a whopping 16 K of memory, and loaded programs from a tape recorder. I remember writing little BASIC programs like a variant of Lunar Lander. And I bought 5 1/4" floppy drives for it.
Utility was limited, so I bought a Franklin 1200, an Apple II clone. Apple was the way to go in those days, and the Franklin was tricked out with dual hard disks and at least 64K of RAM. I bumped it up to 128K and added a few things like a CP/M card...
Apple had their chance with the Apple II GS that I bought next -- and blew it. Apple advertised it as the crossover machine to the Macintosh, so I bought one -- and then they didn't deliver. The II GS was actually a nicer machine than early Macs, but they let it fade -- and my confidence in them went with it. I moved to Wintel boxes in the early Seventies (a dealer-constructed 386SX) and never looked back...
by crabbyabby86
...is sitting in front of my family's full Commodore64 system, with a sheet of paper my older brother printed out at school. He told me to just type it all in... turns out one of the first things I vividly remember ever doing was programming a little connect-four style computer game. I must have been 5 or 6 years old. That would have been about 14 years ago.
It was only a short time after that, maybe just a year, when we got our Acer. All I really remember of it was the sleeve of CDs that came with it, four or five of which were games appropriate for my age. Some coloring book and a MathBlaster. I also vaguely remember running out of hard drive space a lot. That's what happens with two adults and three children sharing less than a gig of hard drive space.
The real revolution for me was when my brothers showed me Hotmail. I still have the same hotmail address from when I was 10 years old. I think those were still Acer days.
And then: the dark ages. Compaq Presario. WinME. Ugh. I rather lost interest in computers for a while.
Anyway, I just thought it was most interesting that, after thinking about it, I've probably had a passion for computers since before I can remember. Neato.
Never got a disk drive. I used to try and write games on it.
Wrote stuff in basic (sprite editors etc) and 6502 assembler for the game engines.
by dkspivey
by jmccomb
This was 8 bit computer. I payed about $4,000 it had 2 floopy drives(160K) 64k ram and RGB color monitor.
Replaced it with custom S-100 computer with main
boards from Siera Data System (Z80 and 64k ram)it ran on CPM and had 2X 1.2meg 8" 1/2 hieght Qume drives.
and still have them.
by unclerob
Those were the days.
The Vic20 was just a pig, tape drive, black & white 12" tv for a display, huge text, basic was the programming language you would type thousands of lines of basic code just to get some crap text based game to function but it was the bug that bit me and got me interested in computers to begin with. A couple years later, I got a Tandy Coco 3 with 128K Ram for christmas (I was maybe 11 at the time), it boasted real color, lots of color, varying levels of display resolution and I believe it had a top resolution of 640x480 which at the time was unheard of, I had a monthly subscription to Rainbow (magazine for Coco computer owners), it basically completed the transformation from regular kid to geek all in a few short months. The weight gain and corrective lenses came afterwards, no doubt from lack of physical activity and staring at a color monitor 6" from my face for several hours at a time. Computer & keyboard were the same thing, but it was an actual color monitor, not a tv, a 5 1/4" floppy disk drive, a dot matrix printer, and the rest they say is history.
by apres ski
What model was it?
Gateway 2000, floppy 3.5, 5.25, external CD-ROM
1 gig RAM, 40 or 60 hard drive, & 20 inch monitor. I laugh now at what we thought was sooooooooooo hot & now, this would hardly do for a Disney CD/DVD!! WOW! Have things changed or what!
I bought a Canon 7000 inkjet printer. One of the best printers still. But I recently bought a i70 Canon portable printer to go with my laptop. The laptop didn't last long. It burned out within 8 months.
It arrived in 3 black & white boxes with cow patches on it. It was very cool. I still have the big box even though now, it's in storage with my Gateway 2000. Like my childhood, it brings back good, fun, fond memories of the early 90's and all the stuff I was learning at the time.
Where did you buy it?
After shopping for hours using newspapers, magazines, Gateway catalogs, I ordered it over the phone.
How much did it cost?
About $6,000! So my mother says because she paid for it. I ordered a 1 gig for the hard drive, and in those days, I was king of the hill!! HAHAHA! It cost plenty to put that on, but their eyes lit up when I asked them to.
What kind of stuff did you do with it?
It's what I DIDN'T do with it!! School, work, started a business with it, DTP, you name it, I did it!
How long did you have it?
I had it about 1993-96, by then Windows 95 came out & I was forced to upgrade.
What did you eventually replace it with?
I replaced it with a Dell XPS 2 in 2003 because of a class I was in. I thought I could bluff my way through Word & Excel 2003 and I found out the hard way I needed a new computer.
I did have 3 generic substitutes in between. I was forced to run out & buy the first thing i saw because I was in the middle of a DTP project. But for shear power, speed, and the work I do, I knew I needed a gamers PC.
Right now, I'm shopping for a gamers laptop. I know it will be either a Dell XPS or Alienware.
by baldwinleo9
by rayjeff
...in MIDDLE SCHOOL!?!!? Me and a few friends of mine would be in the computer lab alot playing that most wonderful of games, "Lemonande Stand". We'd be in the lab all the time at recess playing it. I don't know, for whatever reason, the teacher who was in charge of the computer lab (who would become my 7th grade science teacher) would allow one of my friends to load the programs from the server onto the network to load onto the other computers. I'm assuming that it was a client-server network because there was an TRS-80 that the had the big ass 8.5 floppy drive and all of the programs that would be used by the other TRS-80s would be accessed after the floppy was loaded. Anywoo, because my friend had access to the server and the programs, he load Lemonade Stand for whoever wanted to play it. And I know how, but I picked it up on how he did it and sometimes we would take turns loading games...until I asked the teacher "officially" if I could do it.
I had my Tandy Color Computer II at the time, but I didn't have a floppy drive, I had the tape recorder. Needless to say......I have my friend to think for the path I'm on today...kinda reminiscent of Robert Redford & Ben Kingsley in Sneakers..one of my favorite movies *ROFL*
by rd4554
What model was it? Commodore VIC20
Where did you buy it? Computer Store
How much did it cost? around $100
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Games and BASIC programming
How long did you have it? probably three years
What did you eventually replace it with? Commodore 64
by pkr9
My first computer was an IBM 1400 punched card machine. It was the size of a decent house, and I have forgotten everything about ram etc. You programmed it by connecting holes in a honeycomb plate with small wires. It had the big advantage that when something crashed, you could SEE the crumbled cards, repunch them, put them back and press 'go'. Sorting was the big thing, as mostly you used an 'update' stack of cards against a 'master' stack of cards. If the master file suddenly went berserk reading and outputting cards like h*** and nothing else happened, sure thing was you had a sequence error in the 'update' file. It was easy to see on the output stack from the masterfile where the error started - the edge of the stack looked different. So you loaded back from the master output to the master input, noted where you were in the update stack, resorted it, placed it back in the update, and ignored errors about mastefile being out-of-sync with update until the next - correct - update card was read.
Later I moved to a Bull something with 16k (bits - not bytes) core store, 8 tapeunits and - in 1970 - a 1200 lpm printer. Staff was 1 boss, 3 programmers, 1 planner, 8 operators and 12 punchers. Operation was 3 shifts. The punchers were a real asset as they were all female, mostly young, adding a lot to the atmosphere and raising the value of office parties.Then I changed to IBM360/25 and followed IBM until the iSeries hwich I left in 2001, to concentrate entirely on project management.
First PC was an IBM PC-G with a 6 needle printer which I still have and it still works. Current one is a Shuttle full of nice goodies dualbooting into Linux/XP - with a strong preference for the first.
by doug m.
by keizan
Oh, how I miss my Commie 128 :)
You got it from Sears? Let me guess, the thermal printer was an Okidata, right? Had one myself.
Used the Commie for school work, games, and playing on the BBS's. Even ran my own BBS on the Commie.
Every now and then, I pull it out and play with it when I feel nostalgic. Would have been interesting to use the commie on the net, wouldn't it?
by mark miller
It's not that they're incapable, in theory, of running on the net. It's just that the content on the most simple web pages today would overpower them. I used to run a GIF image converter on my Atari 8-bit. I would download GIFs off the internet (using a Unix account I had at the time) and have this converter program convert them to Koala Pad or RLE format. It was EXTREMELY slow by today's standards. Watching it run was like watching paint dry. Even small images I've seen on web pages are about 64K in size.
I don't know how large a TCP/IP stack would be, but I imagine it would take up a good chunk of memory.
I suppose something like Lynx, the text-only HTML browser, would be feasible on a 128K 8-bit computer, but it would be a spartan experience.
Some years back I heard a rumor of somebody who had rigged up an Apple II as a web server. It only had enough memory to serve up a single static web page though. Something like that. Not very useful, but a neat project I guess.
The only "retro" projects I've heard of that have had any success creating a decent experience on the Net are on 16-bit computers. And they get better if they're on 32-bit machines. I'm talking Commodore Amigas or Atari STs.
by jwolf
What model was it? Sinclair
Where did you buy it? Order via Philtron
How much did it cost? Can't remember,
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Programming
How long did you have it? 2 years
What did you eventually replace it with? Commodore 64
by arthurp
My first computer was a Sinclair ZX80, which at the time was a very advanced piece of kit, with ?kb of ram. But sadly this could only handle integers ...
Over the next year I did any odd little job that a schoolboy could do; paper round, returning glass pop bottles for the 10p deposits, digging gardens in the summer, and repairing bicycles so that I could afford the ?80 for the ZX81 kit.
Having sent the postal order off to Sinclair, proudly announcing that I would like to order a ZX81 kit I sat back in anticipation of its' arrival. Then on my birthday in early November my grandfather made me sign for a box from the postman. When I opened it, I was over the moon, and totally confused because the kit that I had ordered appeared to be a fully assembled computer - little did I know that my gandparents had ordered the ZX81 two days before I did.
With 1kb of RAM - WOW - and able to handle absolute numbers this was a powerful machine.
Two days later my kit arrived, and I sat down with a friend of the family & my granddad over the next two weeks soldering the thing together in order to finally screw the case together and power it up on the small portable TV just in time to go to bed for Christmas Eve. For what it was the ZX81 represented a leap in home technology, I could record my cassette collection within a database, I could fly a flight simulator, and spend hours typing in programs only to watch it crash when I pressed save. Even worse, was realising that you had failed to connect the cassette recorder to the thing and knowing that you had lost 4 hours worth of work.
Over the next couple of years I progressed to the Comadore Pet that was in need of repair; and stumbling across a Comadore 710 - which looked as though it actually belonged in some futureistic episode of Space 1999 - before buying an Atari 510 which was used as a word processor, replacing my 9-pin Epson FX80 with another printer.
It wasn't until the late 80's that I progressed into PC's with my first XT, and then 8088 (AT), before buying my first laptop, (a leading edge 486 with a colour screen), with a 30Mb HD and 2Mb RAM whilst I was in Tampa back in the very early 90's. Truthfully I think the guy who sold it to me thought I was rich. What I didn't tell him was that I had a UK credit card & that the exchange rate was nearly $2:?1 so I had a bargain - the guy even gave me a 10% discount because I was English.
I still have the ZX80, and both ZX81's which work; yet I wonder whether we've really advanced with computers. Yes both the power and functionality of the systems have improved within the last 26 years. But have we ?
23 years ago the Geek was found loitering within the broom cupboard or somewhere within the basement amongst the cobwebs, I was 16 and writing programs for school children so that they worked in less than 32kb; yet today this is not enough to hold some sound files; and memory is measured in Gb, rather than Kb's. Nibbles have faded into a distant memory, and are now regarded as small bites of your food, and other than the Older geek just how many new techies could explain the use of a 3 dimensional array within the program code, and not a database; not to mention the difference between an Operating Environment and Operating System ?
The first program that I downloaded was back in November 1981, with my cassette recorder pressed against the speaker of the TV, and it was from BBC's Tomorrow's World. Not that it worked, but it was fun ...
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by arthurp
Back in the 80's these machines were fantistic for the price, I managed to get hold of one for my younger brother, so that he could run the BBC software on them. The only problem was I spent many a night playing Chuckie Egg, and Reptilion on the thing ...
Before I met a fashion consultant who convinced me that I looked good in greens & DP, I was a member of the team who rolled the Acorn Atoms out to Interflora agents allowing them to be "networked" - in the loosest sence of the word - with their central handling agents. The keyboards were the right size, and many people felt happy using them because they didn't look like computers.
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by frank_boston
by obviator
i had one too. My first computer. i bought it 'cause it would also run CP/M and i could play with dBase and Wordstar besides running games on it. It cost me about $300 and i bought a tape deck and external drive for it. i had a Star printer for it that's still in my garage. i ended up selling it to help finance my next box, a Northgate 286 that morphed into a generic 486 box that i still have.
Things were MUCH simpler then, even though they still managed to confuse the bejeebers out of most folks.
by johnpaulm
Actually my first was a minavac 601 I found in the alley, had lites and buttons didn't do much.
My next was a Commodore 64.
My first real computer was a IBM XT I think it had a 10 meg hard drive, and a Princeton Graphics color monitor. That about all I can remember about the spec.'s. I do remember it cost me $10,000.00 brand new.
JP
by krustykanuck
What model was it? Commodore Pet and Vic-20 (My cousin and I also shared a Sinclair ZX81)
Where did you buy it? Pet in Edmonton, Canada and Vic-20 in Cold Lake, Canada
How much did it cost? Pet = $800, Vic-20 = $300
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Pet was my fathers for business use. Vic-20 was mainly for gaming and learning BASIC programming
How long did you have it? Pet for 5 years, Commodore Vic-20 for 2 years, Commodore 64 for 6 years.
What did you eventually replace it with? Commodore Vic-20 to Commodore 64 in 1985, Commodore 64 to IBM 486DX33 clone in 1991
I remember being able to copy loads of freeware and shareware games on to my tape drive. Every kid on the block was coming to our house (and leaving their blocky Atari VCS/2600 in the dust). Games like Snackman, Choplifter, Omega Race, the Space Invaders ripoff, Froggee, Night Driver, Lunar Lander. Stayed up late at night sometimes writing programs from Compute! magazine to see if they would work. Also had the 16k memory expansion. Got to use my Dad's Pet for typing assignments on.
When the Commodore 64 came out I bought the C64 first for $300 and then later the 1541 disk drive for another $300 with paper route money. Even more games were copied with this machine thanks to hacking software from Europe. The Commodore dot matrix printer was very slow and noisy but it at least would print the fonts that were found on the GEOS Commodore windows interface. Anyone remember GEOWrite? or GEODraw?.....With 64k those programs struggled...The games were great though with titles like Summer Games from EA, F15 Strike Eagle from MicroProse, H.E.R.O, Donkey Kong, Lode Runner, Jumpman, Miner 2049er, Karateka, Castle Wolfenstein, etc... you just had to be patient with the 5.25" disk drive; Load "*",8,1 and return...
I sold the C64 computer, disk drive, monitor and printer for $250 back in 1991 to save up for a IBM clone. When I got my 486 I learned a lot about PCs when a roommate of mine introduced me to the art of ugrading computers and online bulletin boards, before the advent of the internet as we know it..
by dmthornton
Do any of you remember the basic programs that came with the Vic-20 manual (I think this is where they came from). My first experience programming was typing in and modifying that program that bounced a ball around the screen. I still remember the excitement I felt. I've been programming ever since.
Compute! magazine was great as well. There's probably so many people who got inspired to program through this magazine.
by krustykanuck
by dbwood
My first computer was the Microace, a kit-version of the TS ZX81. I used it to learn digital electronics: designed and built a 16K (huge!) memory board and an interface for a real keyboard.
I reverse-engineered the 4K ROM and learned to call the OS routines from Z-81 assembly language routines (I wrote an assembler in Sinclair Basic).
by stan20
My first computer was one I designed (at the chip level, not plugging together some one else's boards) in late 1974 (about the same time the first Altair was being designed). By early 1975 I has it working, with a huge 1k of RAM! Eventually I expanded it to 64k, making it a huge micro computer for its time!
After I wrote a loader and connected a paper tape reader and punch salvaged from an old Western Union teletype, I wrote a simple monitor program, then a rudimentary real time operating system.
Fond memories!
by baldwinleo9
Well, that was just a chipset (2 chips, Register and Control). Nomnally 2MHz but would single step (i.e.: use a debounced momentary switch instead of the clock - handy for debugging). Needed a "few" external chips to make a computer, including a few 7-segment LEDs!
Bought: mail order
Cost: chipset - a few dollars ($20?) everything else? $200+
Do with it? first, a multi-setting alarm clock, later morphed into a darkroom clock (hey, the red LEDs were "safe" for paper.
How long? until I scraped the darkroom in 2001
Replaced with? Nothing - no film, no darkroom, no timer. Or you could say I replaced it with a digital camera, a flash card, and a Pentium Laptop running PaintShop Pro 9 (my virtual darkroom, but it still needs no timer).
by andrew.beals
The people who designed the SuperElf board were right-handed so I had to fix that as I was building it, and it ended up in a nice walnut case with a smoked Plexiglas top, with about half the machine wire-wrapped.
These kids with their pre-built computers!
by baldwinleo9
See above for RCA 1801 blather, but is this really a computer by todays standards? No screen, no QWERTY keyboard etc., so in that case.... Kaypro running CP/M and WordSTAR 1.1 on dual 5" Floppies. Love that 9" green screen. Used if for term papers, lab reports and resumes. Had my first wife (and my friends wife) typing up term papers and resumes on it for extra $$$. Bought a 24 pin Toshiba printer for high-quality output (first 24pin printer is the age of 9-pin and Daisy-wheel printers). I think the printer cost more than the computer, and we had to write a driver for it.
Model: Kaypro II
Bought: local computer store for about Cdn$2K.
Did: Word processing, a little spreadsheet stuff, a little programming in SBASIC.
Had it: 2 years.
Replaced it with: IBM PC clone.
by bshodges3
Started with unit record equipment in the '50's. First programmable computers were IBM 1620 and CDC 1604. Migrated through the entire CDC family: 3L00, 3U00, 6x00 and 7600 writing Fortran and assembly language.
First home computer: Microdata 800, 4k memory, paper tape and ASR-33 (teletype)
Second owned computer -- Osborne I, purchased in 1981, 64k memory, dual floppies, came with Wordstar, SuperCalc, MBasic, CBasic and CP/M OS.
Cost $1,995. Still have the first box of 10 SSDD floppies - $67.00! The Ozzie is STILL IN USE at my office and is used to drive a Qume Daisy Wheel printer. I use this system to print continuous one-up mailing labels and company checks. Software which I had for the Osborne includes: Cobol, Fortran, Personal Perl and compiled Basic.
by jkozura
...unless you count the BASIC Programming cartridge for the ATARI 2600.
The 64 was bought at Dillard's, I believe. I think including monitor, printer, and floppy drive it cost about $1200 in 1985. Eventually, I got another floppy (2!) a 1200 baud modem, 9 pin printer, Koalapad, etc.
I used it to the max and finally replaced it with an Amiga 500.
by mitch
My first puter was also a 64, unless you count Intelivision or even TV pong,,,lol
In 84 I bought an IBM pc at Computerland in NYC. It was about $3500, 2 large floppies, and also bought few programs that cost $500+ each, d'base, wordstar, and lotus 123.
A green screen monitor and dot matrix printer came with the package.
In 89 I turned to Mac, the grayscale 9" screen all in one SE box was awesome compared to IBM's dos based systems. You had 2mb of ram, a 20mb hard drive, 250kb of video, and even a mouse. Let the clicking begin,,
by udippel
Jason has a list of Apple/IBM/other.
My first computer was a PDP11/34; way back. Not my own, as you can imagine; but I was the single user; in Research.
My first own computer was a used ZX81 that I bought 21 years ago and sold it for the same price a few days later.
My first PC was an IBM 'sewing machine'; portable with a green, built-in monitor (forgot how many inches, 8 or so), 286, 640kB of RAM, 20 MB of harddisk. Did all of my work on it.
My last PC was and is a DELL Inspiron 8100 (I like the portable ones, you see); five years old and still working (though DELL had to replace almost everything: Hard disc (3x), keyboard, floppy, motherboard, CDROM, power supply; so it won't be a DELL again).
As long as it runs, I'll keep it. With P-III 866 and 256 MB it runs Debian great and fast.
by teeville
My first PC was an Apple II+ with 4K of Ram. It had no hard drive, no floppy drive, only came with a cassette tape with one program --- Lemonade Stand.
I kicked it up to 48K eventually. It had a green monitor and the display was all caps. The floppy drives I added were one sided 5 1/4" and held 720K (We thought they were huge).
Wrote my own programs with Applesoft Basic since there wern't too many out there. Used "VISICALC" which was the predecessor to Lotus 123.
They were fun days.
Eventually worked my way out of Apple and into the Intel/Microsoft world. with a XT 33 mhz.
I still have the old Apple II+. I'll use it as an anchor one day.
Had 1 Floppy, & a 300 Baud Modem. Around '83/'84? Had some games but used mostly to type in Basic & Assembler. Used to log into Texas A&M's PDP/11? to run Fortran homework from home at 3am then pick up output on the way to lab. Replaced w/C=128, then Amiga 500. Good memories...
Armando
by kswamy
by manitobamike
Wasn't mine but our school had one. Big box 2.5 ft square 1ft tall. Not floppy or HD. Programmed on numeric keyboard. Stored programs on a magnetic card. Got me interested in computers then (Late 1960's). Saw one again 4 yrs ago in landfill site.
Anyone else remember these?
by radams36
Daenabean,
If you really liked Buck Rogers, it is available on the MAME arcade emulator software, and can also be found for use with the Adam/Coleco Emulators that are currently available. The MAME version is a LOT better than the Adam version (to be expected, of course).
Richard
by cruelmcc
by ___._
ZX Spectrum (81)
16k of the highest quality memory!
(Later featured 48K!!!!)
Featured rubber keys!
It was the size of a laptop keyboard!
Done a bit of BASIC programming and played defender.
by tryten
What model was it? Commodore 64
Where did you buy it? Local Shop
How much did it cost? Dont know, father purchased
What kind of stuff did you do with it? Games mostly....
How long did you have it? Still do, well pieces of it.
What did you eventually replace it with? A hammer, then a Commodore Amiga 1000.
by oisleach9
My first computer in college was a mainframe called a Burroughs 6700 it was programmed with a Tektronix green-eyed monitor using CANDE, Command AND Edit.
After graduating with a Degree in Chem Engr. I bought a Personal Computer an Apple ][ with no hard drive an audio tape to save the text. No floppy was affordable at that time.
by gazzbo999
Well not counting the abacus or my first programable calculator that had a magnetic data reader that used a piece of wood like a nail file with a piece of magnetic tape stuck to it, my first real machine was a sinclair ZX80, not to be confused with the 81, which sold in the zillions.
this machine as i recall had 1k of memory on board for everthing and no data storage facility, hence program it and switch it of and then start all over again.
when a line of basic was input the screen went off while it was processed because of the shared memory, not much different now with xp pro 2gig of ram and working on a large photoshop file.
ANy way this unit was the princely sum of ?99.00 back in 1979.
This soon had to go and was replaced by an early pet, then a trs80 by radio shack then a sharp mz80k, so who remembers any of them.
Apricot F5 (5 megabyte hard drive)
Atari 800, atari ST later and we ended up with a early IBM xt.
the rest is history, todays homebuilt machine using and AMD 64 bit (my first AMD chip in 28yrs of computing)
Here we are with 1000 time more ram than my first hard drive.
where will we be in anither 10 years
Garry Kirby
Computer lover and consultant in the UK
Radio Shack Colour Computer 3
Radio Shack
Don't remember what it cost but I remember I maxed the memory (individual DIP chips), bought a floppy controller from a friend, and hooked it up to a surplus DEC chassis with two 5.25" floppies. The CoCo OS (never did put OS-9 on it) treated each side of a floppy as a drive so it had four 180k 'drives'.
Mostly played games on it
After a year and a half I bought a Commodore 10/20, an IBM/PC clone with a 5.25" & 3.5" floppy, EGA, a 20 Mb HD and a 2400 baud modem.
by rigginsa
by blfalcon45
Commador C 64
Purchased in Ft Bliss TX for 129.99 in 1984. I learned to change IBM program commands so they can run on the commador. Played a lot of games load"*",8,1. Replaced it with an IBM 1088
by poordeth
by mc11
I bought it from the manufacturer for $400, and it had 24 LEDs & switches for I/O and 4KB of memory in 1978.
I took a Freeden Flexowriter (a Punch-Paper-Tape Electric typewriter) and hacked it so I could use the PPT reader & writer as storage, and the typewriter as a printer. It was slow, but at that rate, it would 'last forever!'
I expanded the memory to 64KB, and then to 2MB. And I added an 8" FDD (128KB) and of course I had to make my own Video Display (16-lines x 64-chars)
I had it until my x-wife called and said: "The dumpster is leaving on Wednesday, and you can have 'anything you want' before then." I retrieved it, but then sold it to a collector in NY for $400 (+S&H).
It was supplemented with an IBM 5150 16MB RAM, 320K FDD in 1984. And I replaced it with a 20MHz 386 AT-clone.
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